Episode 267 (Transcript): What Do You Say? | 3 Conversations About Holy Envy, Uncertainty, and Forgiving Yourself
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Episode 267 (Transcript): What Do You Say? Three Conversations about Holy Envy, Uncertainty, and Forgiving Yourself
Anne Pimentel: I think that when people have an expansive faith experience, to the outside, to the maybe orthodox member, it looks like they’re falling away.
CW: Yeah.
AP: And people may think that about me right now as I’m expanding and changing how I approach church, but what they may not understand is that I have never felt closer to God than I do right now, and my relationship is deeper and more enriching than it ever has been.
And so we have this fear of changing how we do church, but I think that when you really dig deep into it, it is such a beautiful deepening experience.
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CW: Hi, I’m Cynthia Winward.
SH: And I’m Susan Hinkley.
CW: And this is At Last She Said It. We are women of faith discussing complicated things, and the title of today’s episode is “What Do You Say? Three Conversations About Holy Envy, Uncertainty, and Forgiving Yourself.” Hello, Susan.
SH: Hello, Cynthia. I’m looking forward to these conversations today, but can I take a second for housekeeping before we start?
CW: Please.
SH: I wanted to let listeners know that this is our second to last episode of our regular season episodes for Season 11. We’ll have one more next week, and then we’re going on summer vacation, Cynthia.
CW: Summer vacation.
SH: But there will be more ... We haven’t finished with all of our “What Do You Say?” interviews yet, and so there will be some “What Do You Say?” dessert over the summer, and-
CW: Nice
SH: And that will show up in the form of a bonus episode. And then we will have a few other bonuses, and we hope that people will hang with us for the bonuses and come back with us when we resume in early fall, I guess. Late summer, early fall.
CW: Mhmm!
SH: Yeah. Not gonna pin any dates down on that yet. I also wanted to thank the listeners. We … People may have noticed we’ve had a little bit of a mini pledge drive going on here. And I wanted to thank people for their generosity in all the ways that they have supported the podcast, but particularly at this time, financially. We have appreciated that, and so thank you to everyone who has donated, who has helped us out with a paid subscription on Substack.
And I just wanna give people a reminder that even if we stop talking about that, you can keep thinking about it.
CW: [laughing]
SH: And we’re happy to have your support any time that you can afford to kick a dollar our way. And also a reminder that we are a 501[c][3], and so if people will hit the donate button on our website to make a donation, those are tax-deductible. A paid subscription to our Substack actually is not tax-deductible, so that’s something else people may wanna consider when they’re figuring out the best way to support the podcast.
CW: Nice! Good housekeeping. Alright. Are we ready?
SH: Yeah, let’s get to the good stuff.
CW: All right. Let’s get to our three conversations, and then I’ll meet you back here for Contemplation Corner. How’s that?
SH: Perfect.
