At Last She Said It

At Last She Said It

Episode 258 (Transcript): Cynthia and Susan's Ragecast Potpourri

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At Last She Said It
Apr 07, 2026
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SH: Like, if we’re gonna move into mainstream Christianity, I feel like a fellow Christian would need to be able to walk into any sacrament meeting and recognize Jesus Christ as the centerpiece of that worship service.

But instead, I feel like they are at least as likely, if not more likely, to get temples or something like tithing or word of wisdom.

Or I mean, like sometimes your pioneer stories, right? Or the importance of sustaining our leaders. Like the talks could be about anything that gets assigned that week, but it’s not, I’m not even sure that it’s most likely to be about Jesus Christ.

CW: Hello, I’m Cynthia Winward.

SH: And I’m Susan Hinkley.

CW: And this is At last she Said It. We are women of faith discussing ragey things.

SH: It’s complicated, Cynthia.

CW: -complicated ragey things. And the title of today’s episode is Cynthia and Susan’s Rage Cast Potpourri.

SH: Yep. That’s the title. All right. Okay.

CW: That’s the title.

SH: To be fair, there were other possible subtitles in the running. Some of those- Including but not limited to-

It’s not gaslighting if God does it.

CW: That’s yours, Susan.

SH: Also, that’s how sacred women are.

CW: Oh gosh. More on that, Uhhuh

SH: more on that. Or also just pass the popcorn because Cynthia, this conversation is just gonna be about a whole bunch of stuff and in preparing for it, well, it came about because we were messaging each other back and forth all week about some ridiculous things and just wanting to grab a mic and talk about them. And in a season of big ideas, like I feel like, ah, we’ve done deep dives on big topics. We’re planning deep dives on future big topics, and it’s been a lot of work and it’s been awesome, but it’s also a lot to chew on. And so every now and then, it’s good to just grab the microphone and blow off steam, so,

If you’re a listener who, you know, loves the deep dives and exploring big ideas, don’t give up on us. Those are coming back. And if you’re a listener who doesn’t mind kicking around the church football every now and then then stick with us today ‘cause that’s exactly what we’re gonna do.

CW: Exactly. Everyone gets your favorite dirty soda and that popcorn. And join us, Susan. I’m wearing my womankind t-shirt even, you know?

SH: Perfect.

CW: We’re not talking about mankind today. We’re talking about womankind. So,

SH: I love it, Cynthia.

CW: Join me. Join me in my feminist rage right now.

SH: Okay. Well, where to start?

CW: Just the tone. Where to start? Exactly.

SH: We’re gonna start with women can now be Sunday school presidents.

CW: Yeah. Yeah

SH: I mean, as a Mormon feminist podcast, I think it’s only fair that we spend a minute talking about this, even though we’re not usually the, you know, respond to church headlines podcast. That’s not really what we are.

But I mean, this one, well, it feels big, or does it?

CW: Or does it?

SH: Is it the biggest crumb we’ve ever had? Or is it the crummiest crumb that we’ve ever had? I’m not,

CW: I keep hearing women talking about crumbs saying we don’t even have enough crumbs for a crouton. Well, well, they’re not wrong.

SH: That’s, yeah, I think that’s true.

A few things occurred to me when this announcement came out, so I guess I’m just gonna start there and we can talk about those.

CW: Okay.

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