Episode 256 (Transcript): Shadow Work | A Conversation with Jana Spangler
Episode Transcript
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JS: And befriending our inner critic because we’ve built up such a shadow that every way that we naturally are is not okay. We’re supposed to fit this mold. And so it’s reclaiming parts of - That we’ve had to repress and push down for acceptability. So it’s bringing those up and looking at them and having a lot of that self-forgiveness you know, that Maya Angelou talks about. That when we know better, we do better and have lots of grace for yourself for doing what you did when you did it.
SH: Hello, I’m Susan Hinkley.
CW: And I am Cynthia Winward.
SH: And this is At Last she Said It. We are women of faith discussing complicated things and the title of today’s episode is Shadow Work, A conversation with Jana Spangler. Hello Jana.
JS: Hello ladies.
CW: Welcome!
SH: We are thrilled to have you back on the podcast. Our listeners might remember that we’ve had you on before. I’m gonna give a quick rundown of those episodes right now so that people can go back and find them when they hear this amazing conversation and want so much more from you, which is sure to happen. So we had you on Episode 184: Am I Allowed to Change. On episode 135 we talked about religious trauma and then the original on episode 69, we introduced the Enneagram in an episode called “But She’s Got A Great Personality” and I will link to all of those in the show notes.
JS: Awesome. Well, thank you for having me back. I love conversation with you two.
CW: Ahh. Same.
SH: Is there anything that you’d like to give the listeners by way of introduction of yourself? Maybe just something you haven’t said before or maybe just the same things you’ve always said before?
JS: Well, sure. Well, I’ll just start with people who don’t know me. I am an integral professional coach who specializes in faith transition and relationship, and I’ve been working in that field for over nine years now. I work with Symmetry Counseling and I just am passionate about wellness and helping people through things. I’m the epitome of the wounded healer. I’m, if you know that archetype I fall into it well. These days I’m just really passionate about healthy dialogue. I’m passionate about ways that we can understand each other better without perpetuating all of the yucky stuff we see going on in the public sphere around religion and politics and everything else. I just think the world’s really in need of it, so.
CW: You’re really good at that.
JS: Thank you. I try. But other than that, I’m a mom of three emerging adults. Can’t believe it. My baby’s about to graduate from high school.
SH: Oh.
JS: Like, I don’t know how I got here. But that’s me.
SH: I think Cynthia and I can both relate to that feeling. We’ve been there.
JS: Yeah.
CW: Sometimes I feel like an emerging adult. What’s going on there? That’s another conversation.
SH: You need to schedule a conversation with Jana about that Cynthia.
SH: Laughter
CW: Laughter
JS: Laughter
CW: Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh goodness.
SH: Well, that gives our listeners a great intro as to why we’re having this conversation with you. And today, Cynthia’s gonna lead us through the discussion. So I’m just gonna turn it over to Cynthia.
