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CW: And even if tomorrow was known, even if we did have, even if resurrection, the literal resurrection, we had a knowledge of that as opposed to having faith in it, I still want to live today differently. I want to savor, drink in, and soak up now. So yeah. I’m glad you’re showing up with me too to have this conversation ‘cause I’m done. I’m done kicking the can down the eternal road of all this stuff. I’m just done.
SH: Hello, I’m Susan Hinkley
CW: And I am Cynthia Winward
SH: And this is At Last She Said It. We are women of faith discussing complicated things and the title of today’s episode is We Don’t Believe Our Own Stuff: Resurrection.
CW: Welcome back to We Don’t Believe Our Own Stuff.
SH: You know, what makes us think we get to talk about resurrection?
CW: I dunno.
SH: I don’t either. Here’s the thing. This is not the first episode, by the way that we have sat down to, and I’ve said, what on earth makes me qualified to talk about this? It happens fairly regularly, but I hope that by doing it anyway, maybe we help women have the idea that it’s okay to have big thoughts about big topics. You can do your own thinking about this stuff. Right? CW: That’s what qualifies us.
SH: Yeah, exactly. What qualifies us is we’re members of the church and we’re thinking human beings. So, we’re qualified.
CW: Yep. Well, Susan, I’m sure we have some new listeners who maybe don’t know what our franchise of, we don’t believe our own stuff means. So since we haven’t had one of these episodes in like a couple years, I think,
SH: Wow. Has it been that long?
CW: I can’t remember the last one we did. I think it’s been at least a year or two. So do you wanna what is our, we don’t believe our own stuff franchise about?
SH: So, we don’t believe our own stuff, these are episodes where we talk about the kinds of things that get lip service in our church and sometimes really significant lip service. Like really foundational ideas that when it comes right down to it, we don’t really seem to believe. So examples would be like faith, you know, we don’t actually believe in faith.
We believe in knowledge, right? Or grace. We don’t really believe in grace. We believe in our own efforts. Maybe personal revelation. You know, we believe that leaders revelations always come in ahead of personal revelation, which is really funny in Joseph Smith’s church where-
CW: Yeah, it is
SH: He was told to disregard all of it.
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