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Episode 232 (Transcript): Let's Talk About Sanctuary

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Sep 01, 2025
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Many thanks to listener Adrianna Colon for her work in transcribing this episode!

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SH: I think moments is a really pivotal word in that idea, because I don't know about you but like for me, everything that I have about God, I only have in moments, 

CW: Yes. Fleeting moments,

SH: And I can point to, you know, some, yeah. Fleeting moments. I glimpse things occasionally or feel 'em, or experience them in fleeting moments sometimes before I even realize what, what's happening.

Oh, the moment's gone, you know, before I can even get myself around it. It's these moments and so like maybe the idea of creating sanctuary for myself wouldn't even really be a sustainable thing. Maybe the goal becomes creating moments of sanctuary 

CW: That we take with us everywhere. 

SH: If I can have moments.Yeah. That we take, that we just put in our pocket and continue to carry with us and then we can lean on them.

CW: Hi, I'm Cynthia Winward. 

SH: And I'm Susan Hinkley, 

CW: and this is At Last she Said It. We are Women of Faith discussing complicated things. In the title of today's episode is Let's Talk About Sanctuary. 

SH: Sanctuary. I am so excited for this conversation, Cynthia. 

CW: I know you're excited and this was totally your idea, so I really hope that the reason that you wanted to talk about this comes through loud and clear, right?

Because 

SH:I hope so too. 

CW: Yeah. It left me scratching my head for a minute, but then the more you explained it to me, I was like, yes. Yes! So why don't you go ahead and introduce where we're gonna go today with this. 

SH: Well, I wanna start with a quote that we have used on the podcast before. I think that you have read it at least once on the podcast, so it'll probably be really familiar to our listeners.

It's from Rachel Held Evans in her book, Searching for Sunday, and it says this, “Imagine if every church became a place where everyone is safe, but no one is comfortable. Imagine if every church became a place where we told one another the truth. We might just create sanctuary.” 

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