Episode 230 (Transcript): Creating Your Future | A Conversation With Jody England Hansen

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JH: And that’s what Christ asked me to do, being on the cross, the worst kind of betrayal, the worst kind of experience, the worst kind of pain. And he was offering mercy and forgiveness because how could he recreate, how could he knit his flesh together again? How could he create life again if he was limiting mercy, if he was limiting forgiveness?

And that example, recognizing that he was creating a future by being complete from the past by forgiving what had happened from the past is part of what gave him creative power to be reborn.

CW: Hello, I’m Cynthia Winward.

SH: And I’m Susan Hinkley.

CW: And this is At Last She Said It. We are women of faith discussing complicated things, and the title of today’s episode is Creating Your Future: A Conversation with Jody England Hansen. Welcome, Jody.

SH: Hi, Jody.

JH:Thank you. Thank you. I’m thrilled to be here.

CW: Jody has been on with us before, episode 124, The Holy Work of Activism, and we’re excited to have you back today, Jody. But do you wanna jump in and say anything, introduce yourself before we get into the meat and potatoes?

JH: Well, it was lovely to be on before. I love seeing both of you. Whenever we run into each other, I’m still very much an activist because I’m very much still a Jesus lover and Jesus follower and Jesus wants me for an activist and more than ever people are in need. And so I work with the Utah Suicide Prevention Coalition. I lead suicide prevention training for Lift and Love several times a month, and for many different groups, especially LDS groups. I volunteer to do that. I live in Salt Lake City with my husband in the most beautiful part of the valley. Seriously. I don’t think I could do activism if I didn’t have such a lovely place to live.

And I was raised by very nuanced parents and just feel fortunate to have that kind of background to feel, you know, it was a long enough journey to learn how to find my voice and to keep practicing it. But still, I had great influences to do that.

CW: You sure did. Thank you for that introduction.Thank you for all the work that you do in this space, Jody. I’m sure plenty of people tell you all the time how you’ve affected their lives, but thank you on behalf of so many of us who have looked up to you and read your essays.

JH: Oh, Exponent II–that’s become so much the water I swim in. I’m a perma blogger for Exponent II. That’s very much part of my work. Thank you. You know, that reminded me.