<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[At Last She Said It: Say More]]></title><description><![CDATA[At Last She Writes It]]></description><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/s/say-more</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ez_9!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F062c1469-0dc8-4229-96bf-adb5cd81516a_1280x1280.png</url><title>At Last She Said It: Say More</title><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/s/say-more</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 19:26:29 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/feed" rel="self" 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2026 12:04:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iu7B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e3aa58-919c-4a25-9180-4552b6a1aa54_6048x4032.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>by Blakelee Ellis </strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iu7B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e3aa58-919c-4a25-9180-4552b6a1aa54_6048x4032.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iu7B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e3aa58-919c-4a25-9180-4552b6a1aa54_6048x4032.jpeg 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The key bullet points I remember from Primary are: The Holy Ghost is the third member of the God head, He doesn&#8217;t have a body, and He is God&#8217;s presence on the earth. I figured out that this magical being is the way we feel God. As a kid, I always found the Holy Ghost to be very mystical and unknowable. To be completely transparent, I was a bit trepidatious at the thought of the Holy Ghost. I mean, for Pete sake, there is &#8220;ghost&#8221; in the very name of this ambiguous thing, but somehow, it&#8217;s not supposed to be scary. My teachers told me It can even enter our body and touch our heart like that wasn&#8217;t supposed to terrify me. Not only was it not supposed to scare me, it was supposed to be something I wanted.</span></p><p><span>I pretty much followed the standard Mormon journey, and somewhere along the way, I did discover how to feel Heavenly Father&#8217;s spirit. I did all the things: took  seminary and then institute, studied scripture, attended church, dated a returned missionary and then married him. I went to the temple regularly, said standard Mormon prayers, not just attended but anxiously engaged in Sunday school lessons and skipped to Relief Society activities.</span></p><p><span>Then, in what seemed to be an instant,  it all came crashing down. Like so many of us who experience faith deconstruction, I looked at all the broken pieces of my spirituality laying around me and I wondered, &#8220;Where the hell is God in any of this? How the hell did I feel God before when all I feel now is pain and confusion?&#8221; I didn&#8217;t feel Him anymore. I mean, God wasn&#8217;t even a HIM for me anymore.</span></p><p><span>I was in a constant state of fear about my standing and worthiness before God. I couldn&#8217;t feel God anymore and my Mormon conditioning kicked into overdrive; My doubting had put me in a  fallen state (yes, my bishop at the time actually said this to me) and so I must not be worthy to feel the Holy Ghost. But, I couldn&#8217;t reconcile this &#8220;truth&#8221; with the God I had experienced and the deep desire within me. Just like Enos, I wrestled before God. Or maybe a better way to say it is that I wrestled before MY idea of God. My sobbing became a prayer in and of itself. I would mentally yell into the universe, &#8220;</span><em><span>I have so many good intentions. I am lost and feel all alone, but I want to be found! I have such a desire to know what God wants for me. Surely, a benevolent God that sees my soul reaching out with such earnestness can&#8217;t condemn me for changing. I&#8217;m evolving and all I want is to understand this new me. How could my God be mad at me and leave me when my desires are so pure?&#8221;</span></em></p><p><span>The more I sought God, the more distance I felt.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1302,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/webp&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/213588936?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bpAw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73a09010-4044-49db-a899-c78610f7ad25_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>In Luke 5 Jesus encounters his cousin, John&#8217;s, disciples and they ask Christ why he isn&#8217;t requiring his disciples to fast. He tells them the time will come, but it isn&#8217;t yet. And then he tells them this parable:</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>37 No one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined. </span></p><p><span>38 But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.</span></p></div><p><span>Change was coming&#8212;no one understood that yet. The kingdom Jesus ushered in could not fit into the Pharisees&#8217; paradigm or way of living. The status quo would no longer do. Current teachings, even the teachings of John the Baptist, were good, but passing away, since they were  part of the Old Covenant which Jesus was fulfilling and renewing.</span></p><p><span>As my entire paradigm shifted, my old way of experiencing God wasn&#8217;t working either. The truth was, none of the standard Mormon stuff worked for me anymore. Okay, I shouldn&#8217;t say NONE of it. Very little of it worked for me. As my entire paradigm shifted, my old way of experiencing God wasn&#8217;t working either. I was shoving new wine into old wineskins and they had burst. It was like I was standing there, bawling, soaked in metaphorical wine, looking around at the carnage of my burst wineskin with no idea how to get a new one.</span></p><p><span>At the end of the parable, Jesus throws a little curve ball:</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>39 And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, &#8216;The old is better.&#8221;</span></p></div><p><span>Jesus basically tells us, &#8220;Hey, this &#8220;New Kingdom&#8221; journey we are on together is going to suck. No one likes new things or being uncomfortable, but hang in there. This higher way of thinking is going to be worth it. I promise.&#8221; Turns out, there is a period of adjustment for the followers of old paths who are willing to grow in new ways. I was definitely uncomfortable AND I was willing.</span></p><p><span> In my countless hours of reading, scrolling, listening to podcasts, I came across this quote:</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong><span>&#8220;Seeking God&#8217;s presence means recognizing that while God might inhabit a certain sphere, He is not contained to it. </span></strong><span>Though he may be found in pots and pans and communion wafers and poetry, He also transcends them. What works for a housewife in North Georgia might not work for a widow in Sub-Saharan Africa. How God is glorified in a single Lutheran girl from New York City might look a little different than how God is glorified in a sprawling Catholic family in Mexico.&#8221; </span></p><p><span>&#8212;Rachel Held Evans</span></p></div><p><span>So I went searching in new (and some old) places for God and what do you know?</span></p><p><span>I found God in a group of friends gathering to talk about their own ongoing faith transitions.<br>I experienced God on evening walks with my dog.<br>I still connected with God while taking the sacrament, even though I thought about the ordinance in completely new and different ways.<br>I found God in the reeds and the wind, my kids&#8217; laughter in the background.<br>I felt God in the pillow that caught my tears as I released my pain.<br>I found God as I learned from great Christian thinkers, Mormon and non-Mormon alike.<br>I found God in the eyes of my spouse as he desperately tried to meet me where I was.<br>I found God as I experienced the deep sorrow of mourning my old self.<br>I experienced God in death and rebirth.</span></p><p><span>After all that, I started to understand what Richard Rohr meant when he said:</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span> &#8220;</span><strong><span>The presence of God is infinite, everywhere, always, and forever</span></strong><span>. 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There&#8217;s no other place to be.&#8221;</span></p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r0Ej!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecb8952f-4613-4fcc-a3d0-dbaa9f12a08d_1400x126.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r0Ej!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecb8952f-4613-4fcc-a3d0-dbaa9f12a08d_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r0Ej!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecb8952f-4613-4fcc-a3d0-dbaa9f12a08d_1400x126.webp 848w, 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It&#8217;s almost my favorite part of camping, star gazing. I got all my kids to bed, and sat out alone looking up at the stars. I tried to empty my brain of thought, breathe deep and just be. I let my gaze linger on the mistiness of the Milky Way. I felt confident that I would encounter God. Nature is the place I go most often when I&#8217;m trying to find God and I was sure there was no way the sheer immensity of space would let me down. I gazed and admired. Tilted my head this way and that. Called out to God with my soul. More like, politely inquired if God was there. Ya know when you have to knock on your boss&#8217; door to interrupt them and you are 100% sure the interruption is going to be received poorly? The knock is timid and you peek your head around the door with a grimace on your face, already anticipating the angry look your boss will throw your way? That was me as I looked up at the expanse above me.</span></p><p><span>Then my human messiness took over and my internal tone shifted to something like, </span><em><span>&#8220;Hey Bruh. What are you doing? I showed up. I took 5 minutes to myself to sneak away from my kids, quiet down and be intentional and where the hell are you? Too good to show up? I believed you would be here. I&#8217;m doing the work, so why aren&#8217;t you showing up? Aren&#8217;t you the God that meets me where I am?&#8221;</span></em></p><p><span>I thought perhaps I&#8217;d called God out enough to show up just to spite me.</span></p><p><span>After another breath or two, I conceded. </span></p><p><em><span>&#8220;Well, this is pointless. But the stars are gorgeous and I&#8217;m glad I got to see the arm of the milky way tonight. Just wish I&#8217;d felt more.&#8221;</span></em></p><p><span>It seems as though after a few years of general contentment, I&#8217;m finding myself back to searching for God. I still frequently close my eyes, breath deep and envision my heart expanding. I imagine my soul cracking open and letting the God of my current understanding penetrate my psyche. Sometimes, I feel a rush of refreshment. But more often than not, I don&#8217;t feel a damn thing. Old habits die hard and I&#8217;ve started asking, </span><em><span>&#8220;Where is God now?&#8221;</span></em></p><p><span>A large part of me worries that I no longer feel moved by God because I&#8217;m not as desperate and broken as I was five years ago. I&#8217;m much more at home and at peace with my deconstruction and because of that I no longer live, eat and breathe spiritual matters like I did at the beginning of my journey. Has time made me complacent? Again, I&#8217;m back in new territory and fighting the urge not to panic.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1302,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/webp&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/213588936?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wN_t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd615cf56-2e4d-455c-a42e-b4d8f6baa28b_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Last month, Susan published her </span><em><a href="https://atlastshesaidit.substack.com/p/august-worthy-stuff-cc6"><span>August Worthy Stuff</span></a></em><a href="https://atlastshesaidit.substack.com/p/august-worthy-stuff-cc6"><span>,</span></a><span> and her words allowed me to connect with God as I was reading. I was so grateful for how I felt after I was done that I sent her this message:</span></p><blockquote><p><span>Ah, Susan. Your &#8220;Worthy Stuff&#8221; was so wonderful. Funny, vulnerable, very tender. I just loved it. It was a gift to read about the dichotomy that was (probably still is) your life those few days: all you wanted to do was grieve, yet life went on. You did it because what else could you do? You are doing it beautifully even though I&#8217;m sure it feels like an impossible mess.</span></p><p><span>You sharing the ordinary, lovely moments that stood out to you during those days&#8212;the lipstick, our joke while we were shooting, your MIL holding your hand, the women showing up to the quilt show, the roadshow and cake, texts from friends&#8212;touched me deeply. Reading this was my spiritual practice for the day.</span></p><p><span>It was such a tragic, beautiful reminder that God is everywhere in this shit storm of life and if we can somehow figure out how to calm our hearts and see our God, even for just a split second&#8212;the time it takes to put on lipstick in a mirror, or hold someone&#8217;s hand&#8212;then we are learning something in life. I think, because I no longer experience HUGE waves of &#8220;feeling the spirit,&#8221; that I chase after the small connections I find with God. I chase the times when my heart is open enough to feel the presence that&#8217;s all around, if I can just get out of my own damn way for two seconds. So, long story short, for you to share those small moments of presence in some of the worst days of your life was so valuable to me. Thank you for writing it and opening your heart in that way. It&#8217;s an example of the kind of living I want to do.</span></p><p><span>*</span><em><span>BTW, if you haven&#8217;t read Susan&#8217;s post, go read it IMMEDIATELY. 12/10 stars. Highly recommend.</span></em></p></blockquote><p></p><p><span>I&#8217;ve recently thought that maybe I&#8217;m not encountering God because I&#8217;ve ONCE AGAIN started to limit where I&#8217;m looking or even supposing I can find God. Or maybe it&#8217;s because my understanding of God is changing yet again.</span></p><p><span>To me, God can still appear as a resounding feeling that whatever I happen to be experiencing, learning or hearing is profoundly good, ever expansive and can lead me towards my highest self. If we believe that every good thing comes from God, then surely that means not just temporal things, but feelings and emotions as well. If that&#8217;s the case, there are so many new names I have for the God of my ongoing understanding.</span></p><p><span>Relaxation<br>Contentment<br>Fulfillment<br>Conviction<br>Satisfaction<br>Awe</span></p><p><span>New wine, new wineskins.</span></p><p><span>With this new definition I start to wonder: did I actually miss God that night a few weeks ago as I looked at the stars? Could God have been in the simple acknowledgment of the beauty I was seeing? If so, finding God can be a lot simpler than I ever supposed it to be.</span></p><p><span>For now, I&#8217;m trying to relax and remember that if I want it, God will show up. I just can&#8217;t limit where I&#8217;m looking or how I&#8217;m connecting. I&#8217;ll just keep breathing deep and etch this quote from Richard Rohr into the lining of my heart:</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>&#8220;Be encouraged, and offer up your simple naked being to the joyful being of God, which is both in you and yet greater than you. Hold the soft, warm compress of these loving words against your bodily self. Bypass the mind and even the affections of the heart, and forego any analysis of what you are, or are not. Simply that you are. 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url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4dOG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4a19c3e-4bc5-41c0-a084-7eb1285a963b_7952x5304.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4dOG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4a19c3e-4bc5-41c0-a084-7eb1285a963b_7952x5304.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4dOG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4a19c3e-4bc5-41c0-a084-7eb1285a963b_7952x5304.jpeg 424w, 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We always love hearing from this powerful, thoughtful community of women and we NEVER get tired of sharing the comments that take our breath away. </p><p>Want more? Join our<a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/chat"> Substack chat</a> by becoming a paid subscriber!</p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:735978,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/211807994?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!23Bg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff730514b-aaa4-47c8-ac4d-2e378cdf2c9c_3500x2334.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Patriarchy </h2><p><span>Every time I think I have finally resolved my anger stage something new reignites it. I read Cynthia&#8217;s Say More today and also felt the melt downs. I have been fighting this sexism fight a long time and to read those statements by those women in leadership just sank my heart. We can&#8217;t even be honest without repercussions from the boys at the top. I feel so done with it&#8230; honestly I say that often and here I am still giving it real estate in my head. Thank you Cynthia for opening my eyes once again to how wrong it all is and was.</span></p><p><em><span>-Kim </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I&#8217;m at my brother&#8217;s ward for my niece&#8217;s baby blessing. As all the men went up to bless the baby, my 5-year-old niece said, &#8220;Girls aren&#8217;t allowed to do that.&#8221; She saw it clearly. My brother who is out of the church but came was sitting next to us and told her &#8220;yeah isn&#8217;t that crazy&#8221; and she said, &#8220;yeah it is.&#8221; Here is to a future where little girls just don&#8217;t accept that anymore.</span></p><p><em><span>-Julie </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I teach Valiant 7. One of the girls today asked why girls don&#8217;t get the priesthood. I wasn&#8217;t teaching today so I didn&#8217;t say anything. My co-teacher responded with the typical &#8220;women have access to priesthood power&#8221; and then said something about using it in the temple. I just let her because I didn&#8217;t feel it was appropriate to interrupt her or talk to someone else&#8217;s 8-year-old about that when all I can say is &#8220;I don&#8217;t really know&#8221; or &#8220;the prophet is sexist.&#8221;</span></p><p><em><span>-Stacie </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Maybe I am late to this epiphany, but I am sitting in sacrament meeting and realizing that, when the male leadership of the church say women &#8220;had priesthood authority all along!&#8221;, what they really mean is priesthood permission. I feel like they have conflated the word &#8220;authority&#8221; with &#8220;permission.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Which is why, when women start to test the sexist boundaries of the institution, priesthood &#8220;permission&#8221; can be removed by the removal of priesthood &#8220;authority&#8221; when she is released.</span></p><p><span>While they now gaslight women by insisting that women &#8220;always had priesthood authority&#8221; (when I was growing up, that statement would have gotten me excommunicated) when they performed their delegated roles, what they really mean is &#8220;we always had priesthood permission&#8221; to:</span></p><p><span>1. Be in callings at all</span></p><p><span>2. Perform the initiatory for other women</span></p><p><span>And I can&#8217;t unsee it. Permission is granted and removed at a whim just like this pseudo-authority they think they have graciously bestowed.</span></p><p><span>If I have priesthood &#8220;authority&#8221; to be in any woman&#8217;s role here, but not the ability to call my own presidency, set apart, etc. my own people, what I really have is &#8220;permission&#8221; to temporarily stand in a role a man doesn&#8217;t want until I need him to confirm my choices or do the actual setting apart.</span></p><p><em><span>-K.S.</span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1We2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89cf810d-a0a9-414a-93c7-6c253454ad1f_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Which is nice, but that was one of my shelf breakers. I went through a *super* hard time and couldn&#8217;t (and still can&#8217;t) find God. Which is fine&#8212;I can deal&#8212;but hearing it brought up always begs the question of why God was there for them, but not for me? Which is a stupid question that I don&#8217;t really want to be asking, but it seems to pop up in my soul anyway.</span></p><p><em><span>-ELarsen</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Really weird open mic today. Not so open, though. A young man who was raised in my ward returned today to &#8220;get some things off his chest.&#8221; He talked about being bullied and not fitting in as a youth and then learning about the race ban as a seminary student and knowing that was wrong. He then intimated that he would be there a while to list the other problems he has with the church, at which time the bishop quietly asked him to share his testimony of Christ so others would have time to speak. I heard him say, &#8220;they&#8217;ve had my whole life to speak, this is my turn.&#8221; Then they shut off his mic and, after a few more attempts to resist being escorted out, he walked out saying he had a problem with misogyny, Warren Jeffs, and greed, and then said we all ought to know the names of every one of JS&#8217;s wives. It was hard to watch. The bishop followed him out and I trust had a very calming encounter with him. Our bishop is super sweet and really Christlike. The testimonies continued and I was pleasantly surprised that no one said anything derogatory about the young man. One person said they were grateful the bishopric used their priesthood to defend the members by removing him. After the meeting I asked an old guy in the ward who used to be the bishop who the man was. He gave me his name and I was able to find him on Facebook. I saw the names of his parents and realized they were a couple my friend had told me about who resigned their memberships about 6-7 years ago. So I messaged the young man&#8217;s dad and let him know what had happened in our ward and told him his son might need some extra love and attention today. I sent him my picture and said to give his son a hug from me and let him know I heard him and I validate his feelings and I know what it&#8217;s like to be silenced at church. The dad wrote back later saying he met his son at the stake center (where he had gone to try to talk to the stake president without an appointment) and they were talking about what happened. He thanked me for letting him know. My husband and I talked about the day&#8217;s events just now. We agreed that hijacking sacrament meeting is not the way to get things off one&#8217;s chest, but we also agreed that there really is no time or place where it&#8217;s even allowed to discuss these big problems with our history and policies and doctrines. The Gospel Topics essays need to be discussed and people need to be able to bring up their concerns about the church without fear of being shut down when they do. At a stake leadership meeting when he was in the bishopric, my husband suggested having a separate SS class to go over all of the essays one at a time and was ignored. When there is no outlet for people to air their concerns, they come out in a big burst of anger like what happened today. It&#8217;s a shame. That pain has to go somewhere.</span></p><p><em><span>-Carol </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>What does having faith mean to you? Because I&#8217;ve been thinking about that lately and today&#8217;s sacrament mtg just reinforced to me that the Church teaches having faith as blind obedience; whether you have faith or want to acquire faith you do allllll the things. I don&#8217;t know what I think having faith means, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that.</span></p><p><em><span>-Kayla</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Have your thoughts on &#8220;perfection&#8221; changed over time? I recall this being brought up in a semi-recent </span><em><span>What Do You Say</span></em><span> episode. I don&#8217;t remember who it was. I&#8217;d like to discuss it more. &#8220;Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect,&#8221; (Matt 5:48) was a terrible poison for my OCD brain. Even with repentance, I knew I would never measure up. I was able to let that go in my 20s and accept grace. Still, I thought the atonement would transform me and everyone into &#8220;perfect&#8221; beings. I began to wonder, what does that even mean? Not getting mad? Not hurting anyone&#8217;s feelings? Good at everything? No limits? What if being perfect means giving up my personality because who I am is imperfect? Does perfect mean everyone is the same? A woman in RS once commented on Jesus being perfect and how that meant even as a young child he never did anything wrong or upset Mary and Joseph. You mean a 3-year-old never made a mess or hit their playmate? Currently, my answer to all my &#8220;What is perfection?&#8221; questions is: I don&#8217;t know. It feels good. </span></p><p><em><span>-Meredith </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I&#8217;ve been thinking about the recent conversation Susan and Cynthia had with Lisa Fluckiger about the Beatitudes, and living and ministering in the present.</span></p><p><span>Lisa paraphrased Father Gregory Boyles&#8217; teachings by saying, &#8220;The kingdom isn&#8217;t around the corner. It IS the corner.&#8221; (I couldn&#8217;t find an actual quote of him saying this, but Google can be wrong.?) As I gain experience in this life, especially with my children who do not fit the Covenant Path hiking specs, I find this sentiment to be so true! I find Jesus much more often in the here and now of people living in the gap between pain and the ideal goal. On the corner, as it were.</span></p><p><span>But, as Sheri Dew recently reasserted, &#8220;prophets see around corners.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;d go further to say prophets focus on what&#8217;s around corners.</span></p><p><span>Then where does that leave those following the prophet?</span></p><p><span>No wonder we are running into what and who is on the corner right now, and having problems.</span></p><p><span>And if Jesus is on the corner, why are prophets (seers, revelators) looking past Him? Isn&#8217;t that, literally, &#8220;looking beyond the mark&#8221;?</span></p><p><em><span>-Jackman</span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UajE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0224c198-c3fa-4956-938e-f0d1f09208b1_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UajE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0224c198-c3fa-4956-938e-f0d1f09208b1_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UajE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0224c198-c3fa-4956-938e-f0d1f09208b1_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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But only one is Christlike.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Slavery is biblical; Chain breaking is biblical. But only one is Christlike.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Patriarchy is biblical; Counter-culture elevation of women is biblical. But only one is Christlike.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Retributive violence is biblical; Grace-filled restoration is biblical. But only one is Christlike.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Segregation is biblical; Unity is biblical. But only one is Christlike.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Christ transforms, not the Bible. Be wary of those who know one but not the other.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>~Jordan Harrell</span></p></div><p><em><span> -Nicole </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Today&#8217;s reading from volume 2 of Carol Lynn Pearson&#8212;</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>Page 29</span></p><p><span>Aileen Clyde, counselor in The Relief Society General Presidency -</span></p><p><span>&#8220;I&#8217;m just a figurehead here. The system is set up so no woman can do anything. And if she tries they get rid of her.&#8221;</span></p></div><p><em><span>-Cynthia </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>In honor of book club.....</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>if Lilith was a man</span></p><p><span>he wouldn&#8217;t be called</span></p><p><span>lurid</span></p><p><span>he&#8217;d be called</span></p><p><span>legend</span></p><p><span>his refusal to kneel</span></p><p><span>would be carved into swords</span></p><p><span>etched in stone</span></p><p><span>taught in history books</span></p><p><span>as the mark of a man</span></p><p><span>who would not bow</span></p><p><span>to less than truth</span></p><p><span>if Lilith was a man</span></p><p><span>they&#8217;d call it leadership</span></p><p><span>when he walked away</span></p><p><span>from a heaven</span></p><p><span>that demanded</span></p><p><span>he dim</span></p><p><span>they&#8217;d sing his praises:</span></p><p><span>&#8220;too wild for the garden&#8221;</span></p><p><span>they&#8217;d say</span></p><p><span>&#8220;too bold for the leash&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;too sovereign to be caged&#8221;</span></p><p><span>he&#8217;d be a prophet</span></p><p><span>a poet</span></p><p><span>a prince</span></p><p><span>of the unrepentant</span></p><p><span>not a warning</span></p><p><span>not a threat</span></p><p><span>but she wasn&#8217;t a man</span></p><p><span>she was woman</span></p><p><span>and so they called her</span></p><p><span>wicked</span></p><p><span>called her</span></p><p><span>demon</span></p><p><span>called her</span></p><p><span>gone</span></p><p><span>but oh how she flew</span></p><p><span>wings black</span></p><p><span>with night and nectar</span></p><p><span>feet stained with the soil</span></p><p><span>of every place</span></p><p><span>she chose for herself</span></p><p><span>they thought banishment</span></p><p><span>would break her</span></p><p><span>but it made her queen</span></p><p><span>and if Lilith was a man</span></p><p><span>he&#8217;d still be chasing her</span></p><p><span>through every century</span></p><p><span>every scripture</span></p><p><span>every breathless dream</span></p><p><span>of a woman who remembers</span></p><p><span>how it felt to be free</span></p><p><span>because she never asked</span></p><p><span>for less</span></p><p><span>never begged</span></p><p><span>to be loved tame</span></p><p><span>she kissed the stars</span></p><p><span>with her eyes open</span></p><p><span>and dared the darkness</span></p><p><span>to follow</span></p><p><span>and it did</span></p><p><span>because when Lilith</span></p><p><span>left the garden</span></p><p><span>she didn&#8217;t fall</span></p><p><span>she rose</span></p><p><span>and she taught the night</span></p><p><span>how to hold a star</span></p><p><span>******</span></p><p><span> Poem &#9426; Angi Sullins from my book &#8220;Unmasking the Myths&#8221;</span></p></div><p><em><span>-Rebecca </span></em></p><p></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>&#8220;This body isn&#8217;t simply something I own.</span></p><p><span>It is where my life happens.</span></p><p><span>And yet so many of us have spent decades relating to our bodies as problems to solve. And that is where the fracture and disconnection take place. Not because you&#8217;re doing anything wrong. Because that&#8217;s what you were taught.</span></p><p><span>We learned to monitor our bodies.</span></p><p><span>Control them.</span></p><p><span>Shrink them.</span></p><p><span>Correct them.</span></p><p><span>Compare them.</span></p><p><span>Very few of us were taught how to be in relationship with them.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>-Deb Benfield</span></p><p></p></div><p><span>If I stopped giving energy to the system that wants me silent &amp; small and start redirecting that energy to the relationship with my body, my whole self, and those I love &#8212; who could I be?!?!</span></p><p><em><span>-Mary</span></em></p><p></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>&#8220;There&#8217;s one mountain of awakening and becoming a person of love, and there are many, many paths.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>-Anne Lamott on May 7 episode of the podcast &#8220;Wild Card&#8221;</span></p></div><p><span>Now I&#8217;m going to be thinking of my spirituality as a Mountain of Awakening that has set me toward becoming a person of love.  So simple&#8212;no wonder Jesus came down and was like, &#8220;Okay I&#8217;ll show you in the flesh since the visions aren&#8217;t working out.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>-Lisa </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gOsM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9019f586-5125-47d3-bd2d-406e9d760a8c_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gOsM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9019f586-5125-47d3-bd2d-406e9d760a8c_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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This is my faith in the universe, God, or whatever, makes the giant compost pile which is growing green things in my life.</span></p><p><em><span>-LSW</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I had the opportunity to sustain or oppose the leaders of the church at ward conference today. Raising my hand is such a habit but today I was mindful and intentionally kept my hands clasped in my lap. I will neither sustain nor oppose the callings. I recognize that I have no power in this institutional church. </span></p><p><span>I&#8217;m not sure if it was a micro aggression or a micro rebellion or just being true to my current faith and belief (that is no longer in the church.) </span></p><p><em><span>-Maria </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I&#8217;ve been attending services at an Episcopal church for a bit now and have noticed something interesting about myself.</span></p><p><span>As a little background: they sing their communion hymn over and over and over while everyone takes turns going up to receive the Eucharist. The repetition of a simple song is deeply meditative for me and one of my favorite things about the service. The song pictured above has been sung every Sunday since Easter and I love it a lot.</span></p><p><span>Anyways, for the longest time I found that unless I was concentrating carefully my brain always wanted to change the words from &#8220;let all who are THIRSTY come&#8221; to &#8220;let all who are WORTHY come.&#8221; Pretty much sums up both what I&#8217;m trying to move towards in my faith and what I&#8217;m trying to move away from.</span></p><p><span>I really feel like I&#8217;ve come a long way in deconstructing worthiness and purity culture, but it&#8217;s BONKERS to me to see how that word is so tightly wedged down into my subconsciousness.</span></p><p><em><span>-Stephanie</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Let me share an old Young Women&#8217;s activity that I went to when I was a beehive. The setup of the activity was about discerning the right voices and listening to the holy ghost. There had been a maze set up in the cultural hall of folding chairs and you would wait outside the door and then a leader would put a blindfold on you and then open the door for you. After you entered the point was to navigate the maze to the other side of the large room by using the directions that were shouted at you by other leaders. The leaders who were giving directions were the YW president (who I didn&#8217;t really click with) and one of the bishopric members. At the time there had been a lot of lessons on priesthood and so I thought of course the answer was to follow the directions from the bishopric counselor. This was going to be an activity to reinforce those lessons. I started to follow the directions from the man and was going in the correct direction but I kept walking into the folding chair obstacles. It was never fully direct contact at the beginning but, like when you cut a corner really quickly and get a sharp counter top edge right in your side. Over and over again I was clipping these folding chairs with my foot, my knee, and then finally I was fully stepping into these chairs over and over again. I realized I was at a dead end. So, my assumption was incorrect and I was wrong. This activity was not to reinforce listening to the priesthood or to the holy ghost or to god as male voices. I don&#8217;t think it was thought about that deeply. I did begin listening to what the YW president would give me as directions and then was able to navigate the maze and back out to the hall.</span></p><p><span>I have recently had some internal experiences of growth and then frustration that felt like 2 hard won steps forward and then getting hit by a car and dragged 50 feet back. I was trying to describe these feelings and had the memory of that experience at that activity come forward into my thoughts. The past couple days reflecting I have felt like I have been walking into folding chairs for a long time. On a drive early this morning on my own I was ruminating on this past again and out loud said, &#8220;Enough, what would you re-craft this to be instead!?!&#8221;</span></p><p><span>So, here is what I would re-craft and recreate that beehive experience to be for 13-year-old me.</span></p><p><span>I would do everything the same up to the point where I realized that I was in a dead end. And then, I would stop, take a deep breath, and take off the blindfold. I would realize that I don&#8217;t need to strain to hear outside voices in order to get directions or instructions telling me what to do. I have all the information and context I need through my own senses, physical and metaphysical, to take the first step in front of me and then evaluate what to do next.</span></p><p><span>I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND CONTEXT I NEED THROUGH MY OWN SENSES, PHYSICAL AND METAPHYSICAL.</span></p><p><em><span>-Karina </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Lately, church has felt less like a sanctuary and more like an obstacle course. I leave feeling embarrassed by how distracted I am, frustrated by the constant mental loops, and exhausted by the invisible labor of trying to separate God from my OCD. Instead of worship, it often feels like I&#8217;m negotiating with my own mind, wondering whether I&#8217;m praying &#8220;right,&#8221; feeling &#8220;enough,&#8221; believing &#8220;correctly,&#8221; or even saying &#8220;the perfect answers.&#8221; It&#8217;s hard to encounter the holy when every moment becomes another opportunity to monitor myself. I miss the kind of worship that happens when my heart is free enough to simply be present. It&#8217;s strange to know, deep in my bones, that I could meet God more authentically beneath a canopy of trees, or at the top of a mountain, or in the laughter of my family, or under the weight of my own blankets, or even just where I can feel the sun rays stinging my skin and still feel unable to release the invisible tether pulling me back to my assigned congregation.</span></p><p><span>Maybe that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m so relieved to spend this Sunday at my uncle&#8217;s ward for my cousin&#8217;s baby&#8217;s blessing. The relief surprises me, but it also makes perfect sense. I&#8217;m not going because I feel obligated. I&#8217;m going because I love her. She has been part of my tribe for as long as I can remember, one of the people who has shown up for me in ways that are deeply relational rather than merely performative. Celebrating her family doesn&#8217;t feel like checking a spiritual box. It feels like breathing fresh air after being inside too long. For a few hours, I don&#8217;t have to wonder if I&#8217;m worshipping correctly. I simply get to witness love, participate in joy, and remember that sometimes the most sacred thing we can do is show up for one another.</span></p><p><em><span>-Jessie </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Yesterday marked 30 years since I took out my endowment. Since my first panic attack. Since my first jolt of un-belief in the church.</span></p><p><span>As a gift to myself, I had been planning to burn my temple recommend on this day. I&#8217;ve been thinking about it for a few months and thought I had processed most, if not all, the emotions with this decision.</span></p><p><span>But, I was genuinely caught off guard when I started shredding the edges of the paper to get it to burn easier.</span></p><p><span>I had stabs of fear run through my body. Thoughts that I was being disobedient, that I was throwing away eternity. What if I needed it, but no longer had it? For a moment it felt like someone was watching me. Not God, but a man in a white shirt and tie. All these feelings were directly tied to taking back my own authority, standing up for myself. Saying no to the coercive control of the church.</span></p><p><span>I had planned on putting the ashes in one of my flower beds, but after this experience, I decided to throw them on the gravel path where they will be more easily forgotten.</span></p><p><em><span>-Brooke</span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!afUB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bbeeea4-da3b-42e5-b2bd-8bfa3471d379_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!afUB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bbeeea4-da3b-42e5-b2bd-8bfa3471d379_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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Usually small things I let go because live and let live ... But for a real example... when somebody says that parents are guilty of child abuse if they &#8220;condone&#8221; their child coming out as trans.... I&#8217;ve pushed back (not in a church lesson, outside of church where people seem to feel freer to talk about really bigoted things) and this is what I get in response.... That I&#8217;m being intolerant. I should tolerate their stance. It&#8217;s the paradox. If we should be tolerant of all, then we need to be tolerant of intolerance or that makes us intolerant. To me this is weaponizing the traits of empathy and tolerance. This even occurs within church walls where people try to be more socially acceptable in their bigotry. For example, I shouldn&#8217;t push back or be intolerant of somebody talking about Charlie Kirk being the perfect Christlike example. ARGGGGH! it&#8217;s so manipulative to me, to turn it around and call me intolerant. There are consequences to your bigotry!</span></p><p><em><span>-Rebecca</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I&#8217;ve noticed as Mormons, we completely disregard ethics. We have no critical thinking around them. We only talk about what is morally right or wrong. And that can change depending on who is driving the bus. But ethical questions and answers address the deeper issues.</span></p><p><span>And sadly, you can tell that he is parroting this from some adult, saying this without any kind of context, but applying it to every context</span></p><p><em><span>-Brooke</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I HATE THE PRESENCE OF MEN AT YW CAMP. They are worse than useless, it is all about their ego.</span></p><p><span>I hate the we can bend the rules for men (one man on YW camp but that&#8217;s okay because his daughters are here), hiking with a YW leader by himself with no other leader but then&#8212;when we suggest bending the rules for women it&#8217;s a hard no.</span></p><p><span>I hate the criticism that comes with organizing camp and then other women (and the stupid man) criticizing what&#8217;s going on and how it could be better. I love working hard for high reward events; the way people criticize the work drives me MAD.</span></p><p><em><span>-Rebecca</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Today will be my first family wedding where I&#8217;ll be sitting outside the temple. Now that the day has arrived, it feels a little heavier than I anticipated. It also feels so revealing and yet odds are no one will ask me directly why I&#8217;m not inside, they&#8217;ll just make up stories in their minds. And when you haven&#8217;t had control of your own narrative for so long, I guess it&#8217;s hard to be in a place where it doesn&#8217;t matter if I&#8217;m inside or outside, someone else will be telling my story. I realized that this is what is really bothering me this morning. I really want to be my own storyteller, not a character someone else created. And today I fear that even though I won&#8217;t be inside the temple I&#8217;ll still not be seen for who I am, just for what I&#8217;m not. </span></p><p><em><span>-Stephenie </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Most of the time, my TBM husband and I have reached a truce where we just don&#8217;t really talk about church things. But this week, our 13-year-old son (who is the only one who attends with his dad) was away at a cousin&#8217;s so my husband went alone. So he was sad, telling me how hard it is to go alone to a ward where he doesn&#8217;t feel like he has any connections (we have been in the ward for 18 years, but extended family cliques mean he has always felt like an outsider). So first of all, what a stupid system it is where a stand-up guy like my husband who gives his all to church, can&#8217;t choose to attend a ward 20 minutes away where his brother and my brother and childhood friends go. Makes me raging angry.</span></p><p><span>Then cue deep and meaningful discussion about how he is still trying to figure out what it means for our family in the next life because I have left with all our daughters. Me explaining to him that no loving parent would banish a child for ETERNITY for not following some arbitrary rules so I don&#8217;t believe there is any reality where my Mormon status excludes me from being with him (I mean, I don&#8217;t think I believe in an afterlife at all, but I definitely don&#8217;t believe in the Mormon version). And watching him tie himself in knots both agreeing with me but also telling me there are eternal, universal laws that God is bound by. It&#8217;s exhausting listening to the mental gymnastics he has to do.</span></p><p><em><span>-Hannah </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I just got a newsletter from our RS. There is a new RS presidency and they share their bio about them. I know all these women though I am not acquainted with them any more. They are educated and have a lot to offer yet their info doesn&#8217;t relate. As I read their bios they described themselves [and] who they were in context with their family. The new RS president is a full-time nurse but makes no mention of it. One of the counselors is a business owner but makes no mention of it, yet chose to share that she loves to bake or likes art. They are all wives, mothers, mother-in-law, grandmas, daughters of god and everything else except themselves. What the eff? Women perpetuate their own place in the church. Many do it to themselves. If I wrote my bio it would include my whole life not the part that fits the LDS box. I&#8217;m disappointed they chose not to include their professional accomplishments. And I truly mean that I respect and admire each of them. They are so much more capable [than] what they included in their bio. If you were to write your bio, what would you write?</span></p><p><em><span>-Priscilla </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>Isn&#8217;t it interesting as we process our anger over the modesty obsession and change our attire as we go on a faith expansion! And yet as I watch men go on a similar faith journey, they are not talking about clothing, they don&#8217;t feel anger for what they had to wear. My husband only changed his underwear and worries a little less about the length of shorts. Nothing changed with his style choices.</span></p><p><span>On faith journey zoom group calls, many women are showing up in tank tops. Men&#8217;s attire remains the same. Yet the church comes out with a men&#8217;s open sleeve tank top? For what purpose?</span></p><p><span>When outside of exercise do men wear tank tops?</span></p><p><span>Men have little trauma about clothing and women are sent into a rage. Feel free to push back if you see men&#8217;s experience differently. I&#8217;m just going off of my experiences and observations. </span></p><p><em><span>-Kim </span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YeR6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18492edc-91c0-472b-8439-af29ec30874d_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YeR6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18492edc-91c0-472b-8439-af29ec30874d_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YeR6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18492edc-91c0-472b-8439-af29ec30874d_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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But the whole line-up on the program was women! They called up one of the young men impromptu to give a brief testimony but then the talks were 2 young women and 1 adult female for a regular talk. It was refreshing! Also the girls spoke about how the camp theme was about being children of God, primarily the royalty perspective of a &#8220;King&#8221; and &#8220;Queen&#8221; as our heavenly parents. Seems like our ward is doing a great job of being more inclusive and representative!</span></p><p><em><span>-Becca </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I spent the morning at a missionary farewell in a ward with an apostle on the stand, which isn&#8217;t uncommon with my daughter&#8217;s friend group and where we live. What I thought was interesting was that this cute girl we went to support said that when her brother left on a mission he mentioned all the men who had inspired him and her grandmother had felt left out. So, she thanked her grandmother and the women in her life first. Despite all the things I disagree with and find troubling in the church, I have faith that this next generation of teenage girls will demand more as they see the inequity in the church, even if it&#8217;s just small things that they work to correct and make right over the pulpit. I really loved that she made it right for her grandmother.</span></p><p><em><span>-Stephenie </span></em></p><p></p><p><span> Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s on my mind this morning. I preface it by saying I&#8217;m an &#8216;older&#8217; person. Maybe the oldest in these realms. I&#8217;m feeling absolutely ready to burst with the millions of life experiences and feelings and no place to lay them down or share them. Most people don&#8217;t really want to hear your stories so you spend the day thinking about them and realizing how each story played a part in your becoming. I don&#8217;t know exactly where I&#8217;m going with this, but just let me say I&#8217;m so blessed to be associated with all of you women who think. Thinking women will change the world one think at a time. Keep thinking out there!</span></p><p><em><span>-Pat </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>First adult speaker was talking about &#8220;consider the lilies&#8221; and when it talked about being clothed without toil or spinning, my first thought was of the invisible labor of (probably) women who would make the clothes that would be provided. But then I realized, because of all the grace-peddling here, he&#8217;s probably not talking about clothing that obviously someone would have to work to create, it is grace he provides as a covering, without us toiling or spinning.</span></p><p><span>He went on to be really vulnerable about mental illness and clarify that anger and sadness are not sin. It was beautiful. Then a woman got up (from our ward, but there as a stake speaker) and told us all to put smiles on our faces because the gospel is so wonderful.</span></p><p><em><span>-Suzanne</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>My very favorite 85-year-old in the ward teaches RS and is also a raging feminist and super liberal.  The conference talk she taught from was Elder Gilbert&#8217;s &#8220;Come Home.&#8221;  I went in very curious about what she&#8217;d say. I don&#8217;t think she mentioned the talk even one time. Instead, she introduced the books &#8220;The Next Mormons&#8221; and &#8220;Torn,&#8221; reviewed statistics about reasons why people are leaving the church and opened a discussion about productive and positive ways to react and maintain loving relationships with those opting out. Instead of little handouts with scripture verses or quotes from General Authorities, the handouts she passed around were links to where we could buy the books and find Faith Matters podcasts with Jeff Strong. It. Was. Fabulous. Everyone was animated, shared stories, there was just a synergy that flowed through us as we spoke freely and openly about what was really on our minds&#8212;not the usual guarded &#8220;acceptable&#8221; comments we normally get in RS. We touched on female ordination, our LGBTQIA family members, problems with doctrine and leadership.... we went everywhere!</span></p><p><span>There was one sister missionary (older adult service missionary) attending from out west who assured us that the church leadership she knew personally were aware of these kinds of feelings amongst members. (OH GREAT, so they know and still aren&#8217;t doing anything... perfect)</span></p><p><span>Then I spoke in sacrament meeting and wished everyone a Happy Pride Month and bore a little testimony about how I&#8217;m an ally and believe that expansion of human rights and dignity to everyone elevates us all.</span></p><p><span>Good things happening in Northern Virginia.</span></p><p><em><span>-Heidi</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>I really enjoyed church today. A homeless man walked in during the 2nd sacrament talk. He sat there maybe five minutes and then walked out conspicuously walking towards the front first. One of the older brothers followed him out and then came and got me to open up the library. The man was asking for a Book of Mormon. We gave him one.</span></p><p><span>After he left a woman showed up that had moved away from the ward a couple years ago and was back, down on her luck trying to get her life together. I gave her $20 I had in my pocket and another member gave her more. We gave her our numbers (her phone had been lost). I walked her down to RS. I sat by a newer member who confided to me that she doesn&#8217;t feel welcomed in the ward. We exchanged numbers.</span></p><p><span>We had a discussion of experiences that show you Jesus loves you. I ended up tearfully sharing an experience that really matters to me, but that I no longer believe makes the church &#8220;true&#8221; in any exclusive way.</span></p><p><span>I don&#8217;t feel like I am being deceptive by sharing things that mean different things to me now. I just think I am sharing in the language they can process. But it was an odd feeling</span></p><p><em><span>-LSW</span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qBy3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61f4bb04-7b8f-4999-8bd4-75efb02552da_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qBy3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61f4bb04-7b8f-4999-8bd4-75efb02552da_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qBy3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61f4bb04-7b8f-4999-8bd4-75efb02552da_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><strong>last but not least&#8230;&#8230;.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRMy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27bc785b-b016-49db-b82b-4a3163065868_6588x4392.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRMy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27bc785b-b016-49db-b82b-4a3163065868_6588x4392.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRMy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27bc785b-b016-49db-b82b-4a3163065868_6588x4392.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRMy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27bc785b-b016-49db-b82b-4a3163065868_6588x4392.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRMy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27bc785b-b016-49db-b82b-4a3163065868_6588x4392.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRMy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27bc785b-b016-49db-b82b-4a3163065868_6588x4392.jpeg" width="1456" height="971" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Good for a Laugh</h2><p></p><p><span>BEING PROVEN RIGHT IS LIKE A DRUG FOR ME! I spend so much time assuming I&#8217;m wrong about everything, once you give me a little bit of dopamine for being right, I&#8217;m riding that high for literal days. </span></p><p><em><span>-Kaitlyn</span></em></p><p></p><p><span>A 70-ish man (that I know) tapped my bare shoulder (I was wearing a sleeveless dress) and asked, in the middle of sacrament meeting (not in a whisper!) how I was liking the new garments.</span></p><p><em><span>-Julie</span></em></p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Va!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e7d52e2-3b5e-44e3-b33a-a332570efceb_3261x4770.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Va!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e7d52e2-3b5e-44e3-b33a-a332570efceb_3261x4770.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Va!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e7d52e2-3b5e-44e3-b33a-a332570efceb_3261x4770.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Va!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e7d52e2-3b5e-44e3-b33a-a332570efceb_3261x4770.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Va!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e7d52e2-3b5e-44e3-b33a-a332570efceb_3261x4770.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>I walked past this broken exit sign at church a couple weeks ago. The symbolism had me giggling to myself.</span></p><p><em><span>-Michelle </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>The lady saying the opening prayer in RS said, &#8220;We&#8217;re thankful to be here today even though I don&#8217;t like Relief Society much.&#8221; </span></p><p><span>Love the honesty.</span></p><p><em><span>-Emily </span></em></p><p></p><p><span>This morning as my husband got dressed my 8-year-old son was commenting on his garments. He said he couldn&#8217;t imagine wearing extra layers of clothes,  that an undershirt sounded bad enough but why does dad wear undershirt pants??</span></p><p><em><span>-Maria </span></em></p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dS70!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7fe897-ddda-41ef-b8db-e9d01b168e17_1206x1506.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dS70!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7fe897-ddda-41ef-b8db-e9d01b168e17_1206x1506.jpeg 424w, 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Then when I heard that she had passed on July 29, 2026 it felt particularly heavy&#8212;as if I had just lost a friend. Daily I have been texting Susan or another friend messages such as, &#8220;Today&#8217;s reading from CLP that has me melting down is&#8230;.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>At this point in my Mormony-ness I didn&#8217;t think much could trigger my melt-down-meter. After all, I&#8217;ve read all the popular Church history books,</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a><span> so much so that recently I texted Susan and said, &#8220;I think I am completely done reading about messy Mormon history,&#8221; which is 95% about men in unmerited positions of authority. But the women? I am always open to learning more about my fellow sisterly saints.</span></p><p><span>Enter the diaries of Carol Lynn Pearson (CLP), who, as a woman, has heard the private voices and unfiltered opinions of regular women&#8212;as well as the women in leadership roles&#8212;since the 1960s. And when women talk privately they do </span><em><span>not</span></em><span> hold back with Carol Lynn!</span></p><p><span>Up until now, the biggest view behind the curtain of LDS women in leadership we&#8217;d had is when </span><a href="https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/there-is-always-a-struggle-an-interview-with-chieko-n-okazaki/"><span>Chieko Okazaki gave that now-infamous Dialogue Interview</span></a><span>, as well as in 2021 when the Church announced that in Europe women had been called as Area Organization Advisors for the Relief Society and Young Women organizations. About that, I wrote in </span><a href="https://www.signaturebooks.com/books/p/at-last-she-said-it"><span>our book </span></a><span> chapter called &#8216;For the Men in the Room,&#8217;</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>What fascinated me was reading the press release from the church announcing the change, and highlighting what our general women leaders had to say about this change. Linda Burton, the Relief Society General President from 2012 to 2017, said: &#8220;It is the link that has been missing.&#8221; Bonnie Cordon, Young Women General President at the time, said: &#8220;It truly feels like the missing piece of the puzzle.&#8221; What&#8217;s difficult about their reactions is that we never would have heard these women utter these statements&#8212;that it felt like something was missing&#8212;prior to this change. How long had they thought something was missing? Years? Decades?&#8221;</span></p></div><p><span>The above example is fairly benign, it&#8217;s more a statement that something was missing rather than their personal feelings about the patriarchy. But in the CLP diaries we get a behind-the-scenes look at the pain points of women in leadership. Here are six diary entries documenting such conversations:</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>October 23, 1972&#8212;In this diary entry CLP is talking to </span><strong><span>Amy Valentine</span></strong><span>, a General Board member of the Relief Society. Carol Lynn asked her if </span><strong><span>Belle Spafford</span></strong><span>, general Relief Society president at the time, supported the brethren, particularly about correlation -</span><em><span> &#8220;I can say without hesitation that sometimes she [Spafford] gets pretty hot under the collar. I felt so bad when funds were taken out of our hands recently; all the Relief Society presidents have to go to the bishop whenever they need anything. I felt it was a real step down.&#8221;</span></em></p></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>March 10, 1987&#8212;</span><strong><span>Belva Ashton</span></strong><span>, General Board member of the Relief Society when correlation</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a><span> happened: </span><em><span>&#8220;I&#8217;ll tell you what, Carol Lynn, I think we&#8217;ve hit the bottom and the only way now is up&#8230;Belva remembers </span><strong><span>Belle Spafford</span></strong><span> saying to the Board when she saw the damage: &#8216;They closed us down. They&#8217;ve closed down the Relief Society.&#8217; And when Barbara Smith took over she had not much power. The budget was taken out of the hands of the R.S., they could not call their own counselors, could not have control over their own lessons, lost the Relief Society magazine, etc.&#8221;</span></em></p><p><em><span>Apparently a lot of the Board members convinced their president, </span><strong><span>Barbara Smith</span></strong><span>, to write a letter to the brethren asking them to make some concessions after correlation. &#8220;Barbara was called in (by one of the Seventies whose name she would not give me) and he &#8216;tore her apart&#8217;. He told her never, never to do anything like that again. Barbara went back to her office and locked the door and sobbed and sobbed. She didn&#8217;t go home. Her husband called that evening and she didn&#8217;t answer the phone. Finally he went to her office and found her just devastated.&#8221;</span></em></p></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>August 15, 1977&#8212;</span><em><span>&#8220;</span><strong><span>Aileen Clyde</span></strong><span> </span></em><span>[RS General Board member and later RS counselor to Elaine Jack]</span><em><span> took a deep breath and dived in. &#8216;I have felt all along on this committee that I was not being entirely open. In my heart I am for the ERA and I do not see all of the terrible things coming that the opponents predict if it is passed.&#8217; Sister</span></em><span> [Barbara] </span><em><span>Smith, </span></em><span>[RS Pres. from 74-84] </span><em><span>would you be willing to tell us the real reason why the Church is against it? There must be some reason.</span></em></p><p><em><span>Barbara Smith&#8217;s response was: &#8216;I believe the Brethren feel it would weaken the position of the priesthood.&#8217; So she will admit this at last, if only to herself and a few trusted others. This has been absolutely obvious to me all along: the fear of attack upon male authority.&#8221;</span></em></p></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>February 21, 1986&#8212;</span><strong><span>Emma Lou Thayne</span></strong><span>, who served on the Young Women&#8217;s General Board, author of the beloved hymn, </span><em><span>Where Can I Turn For Peace</span></em><span> (along with Susan&#8217;s own mother!) and was the &#8220;token woman&#8220; (Emma Lou&#8217;s words, according to CLP) on the Deseret News board. </span>The Deseret News had been working on a series for months about homosexuality in the church. <span>Emma Lou was really discouraged to learn that it was abruptly cut off because the First Presidency got word of it. Emma Lou said to CLP,</span><em><span> &#8220;I feel like I&#8217;m just a little barking dog. I go yip yip yip and they pat me on the head and say that&#8217;s all right.&#8221; Emma Lou Thayne said when these kinds of things happen </span></em><span>[censorship of articles]</span><em><span> and they happen often she says to herself &#8220;Who needs the church? Why are we even doing this!&#8221;</span></em></p></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>March 11, 1986&#8212;</span><em><span>&#8220;</span><strong><span>Aileen Clyde</span></strong><span> called me the other day and said &#8216;things are worse for women in the Church now than they&#8217;ve ever been at any time in the history of the Church.&#8221;</span></em></p></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>January 16, 1972&#8212;</span><em><span>&#8220;Just now I was speaking to </span><strong><span>Dorothy Rea</span></strong><span> on the phone</span></em><span> [Deseret News reporter, columnist and photographer] </span><em><span>A lot of people are worried, she feels, that the ERA has an implication for the priesthood in the Church. (I guess I mean against the Church.) She spoke quite frankly, saying among other things: &#8216;I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re as young as you are, Carol Lynn. I&#8217;m just too old to fight Mormondom anymore.</span><strong><span> </span></strong><span>I know that the Lord does not discriminate against women, but some of these self-made Church men certainly do. The priesthood is the only &#8216;power&#8217; some men will ever have, and they grind it right into the ground.&#8221;</span></em></p></div><p><span>Now do you understand why I have been melting down? And not just because July 2026 was the third hottest July on record in Utah history! &#129397; I don&#8217;t know why I assumed women in leadership were called by The Men in Charge </span><em><strong><span>because</span></strong></em><span> they preferred the status quo of women in the Church. But if I only have their public statements to go by, it&#8217;s no wonder I thought they loved patriarchy! Their private sentiments, though, give me another picture of them, least of which is that LDS women are complicated. </span><em><span>(Duh!)</span></em><span> Nobody&#8217;s public comments always match her private comments. But truly I was surprised at their level of disappointment. What didn&#8217;t come as a shock to me though is that LDS women in leadership&#8212;then and now&#8212;still don&#8217;t publicly voice their concerns about our place in the church.</span></p><p><span>In 2019 I thought LDS women leaders were getting close to open dialogue about equality when BYU Women&#8217;s conference</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a><span> held a panel with our top women church leaders and one of the topics addressed was how to deal with dismissive male church leaders. Here we go, ladies, say it, </span><em><strong><span>at last</span></strong></em><span>! Jean Bingham, then president of the Relief Society, did have the courage to admit she&#8217;d had interactions with a dismissive leader that left her &#8220;seething.&#8221; She called her interactions with him &#8220;purse slamming&#8221; moments. Lest I thought she was going to then talk about unrighteous dominion or the power imbalance that exists between men and women, nope, she made excuses saying that </span><em><span>she </span></em><span>learned over time how to work with him. That it was a &#8220;style and personality issue.&#8221; That as she prayed for him </span><em><span>she</span></em><span> learned better ways to approach him.</span></p><p><span>She went on to say that recently she had counseled with a ward RS president going through the same problem with a dismissive male leader and she gave her that same counsel&#8212;to pray for better ways to work with him. In other words, the woman needed to do all the changing. The problem couldn&#8217;t possibly be the power imbalance between men and women in the church. 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><h4>&#8220;Making yourself smaller is what gave you a seat at the table.&#8221;</h4><h4> &#8212;Sara Fisk<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></h4><div><hr></div><p><span>But what happened next might be my number one most disappointing thing an LDS woman has ever said on the record. Bingham blamed herself&#8212; &#8220;We women tend to be shrill or demanding or stubborn, thinking we have the best idea ever.&#8221; Nooooooo! Shrill? Really? Men in charge can act badly but the real problem is shrill women? Bingham closed her comments with a type of postscript: &#8220;One of the things my parents taught me when we have a challenge with a leader is we do not criticize, </span><strong><span>ever, ever, ever</span></strong><span>. I never heard my parents say one negative thing, because it doesn&#8217;t help.&#8221;</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a><span> Hmmmm, sound familiar? This is the same advice given to Barbara Smith in the 1970s&#8212;never ever critique. Has nothing changed between 1977 and 2019?</span></p><p><span>I think it is highly problematic in a hierarchical power structure like the LDS Church&#8212;one in which men are always on the top of the org chart and women are always on the bottom&#8212;to tell the person who lacks power to look at herself first and say, like Bingham counseled the struggling women, to look within and to ask, &#8216;Lord, Is it I?&#8221; and then to follow that up with advice to never criticize. This is how systems of oppression and domination continue. We teach the group with lesser power to never see those in power as having any fault. Look within and never speak it out loud. </span><strong><span>Ever, ever, ever.</span></strong></p><p><span>Thank goodness the internet has allowed for the democratization of LDS women&#8217;s voices. Regular women like me, and Susan&#8212;and all of you&#8212;have public ways to voice our private concerns. I don&#8217;t know if the women in the CLP diaries would&#8217;ve done anything differently had they lived today. Would they have started a blog? Been a guest on a podcast? Privately joined a chat room with a name like &#8216;PurseSlammingProvoMom&#8217;?</span></p><p><span>Reading volume 1 of The Diaries of Carol Lynn Pearson while sweating through July offered me a gift that our manuals and church magazines never have and probably never will. My leaders were not&#8212;and are not&#8212;the passive cheerleaders of patriarchy that their public statements forced them to be. They were sharp women, deeply frustrated, and acutely aware of the &#8220;asymmetry&#8221; crushing them. So I&#8217;ll pick up my melty self off the floor, satisfied today to know that my foremothers have seen every inequity that I see as well. It changes nothing in the organization, but it changes everything in me.</span></p><div class="pullquote"><p style="text-align: center;"><em><span>&#8220;It is better that one woman should perish than that the whole church should dwindle and perish in equality.&#8221;</span></em></p><p style="text-align: center;"><em><span> - CLP, January 22, 1980 </span></em></p><p style="text-align: center;"><em><span>*this was a diary entry written after Sonia Johnson was excommunicated* </span></em></p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kGHC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F053584b1-fcd8-4b13-8ccb-4e885ecbd3b4_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><h3>Cynthia Winward </h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SqTp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa159e3e5-8753-4db6-9f35-001fc04e0cd2_2828x4242.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SqTp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa159e3e5-8753-4db6-9f35-001fc04e0cd2_2828x4242.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SqTp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa159e3e5-8753-4db6-9f35-001fc04e0cd2_2828x4242.jpeg 848w, 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McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, Gay Rights and The Mormon Church, Second-Class Saints, Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet, A House Full of Females.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>We also talked about this very topic&#8212;about women being shrill&#8212;on our &#8220;<a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-93-how-to-be-a-smart-mouth">How to Be A Smart Mouth&#8221; Episode 93</a></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><span>In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, </span><strong>correlation</strong> is the administrative and doctrinal process used to unify, simplify, and bring all church programs, curricula, publications, and organizations under the centralized direction of the priesthood leadership.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Peggy Fletcher Stack, &#8220;Latter-day Saint women&#8217;s leader discusses how to deal with dismissive male authorities,&#8221; <em>Salt Lake Tribune</em>, May 3, 2019, <a href="https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/05/03/latter-day-saint-womens/">https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/05/03/latter-day-saint-womens/</a></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In Arcadia, California apostle <a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/03/24/what-does-new-lds-messaging-really-say-about-women-in-the-church/">Dale Renlund said</a>, &#8220;The reason for the asymmetry between men and women regarding priesthood office ordination has not been revealed.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sara Bybee Fisk quote, &#8220;Why Speaking Up Feels So Hard for Women,&#8221; on <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIqroxIIR6E">Breaking Down Patriarchy</a></em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2019-05-1000-sister-to-sister-event?lang=eng">Sister to Sister Event</a>, To see the question about dismissive leaders and all their responses, go to approximately minute 15</p><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p><em>Isn&#8217;t this a great space? 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isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/feminine-divine</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 20:35:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!il2t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8779c99f-2ebc-4ad5-84a5-89dee82ce973_940x788.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!il2t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8779c99f-2ebc-4ad5-84a5-89dee82ce973_940x788.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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One such listener is a young man, a current missionary in Africa, who is openly gay. He recently shared the most amazing experiences with us and we were just gushing! He gave us permission to share, but for privacy and safety reasons, names have been changed and the country he is serving in has been omitted.</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>First email - &#8220;A few weeks ago, a young woman named Rosine expressed to us that she had just heard about Heavenly Mother for the first time in her 4 years of church membership. After sitting down with this young woman and explaining my personal relationship to the Divine feminine, I braced for the worst. Here in &lt;African country&gt;, conversations about Heavenly Mother don&#8217;t normally go over too well.</p><p>Rosine said something along the lines of, &#8220;If I&#8217;m destined to become like her, does that make me destined to be ignored and silenced?&#8221; All breath was literally sucked out of my body, and my companion and I just sat there for a good 30 seconds in silence. I broke the silence with an, &#8220;of course not.&#8221; I did my best, but all I could do was, as we say in the business, *testify.* I realized in that moment that there was no good comeback to that other than mourning with and comforting her.</p><p>The other week, a young woman of 15 years named Yuia asked me why woman aren&#8217;t priesthood holders. I responded that it is because of the patriarchy that opresses women by depriving them of a voice within the church. I then asked her if she still wanted to be baptized. After praying about it, she said that she still wants to be part of this church despite all of its flaws. She was baptized last Sunday, and I have all confidence that she will become a catalyst for change within the church culture here.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><p>Second email - &#8220;Yesterday, I had another real conversation with my friend Yuia. She asked me if her only role as a woman in the church was to raise children. I responded by acknowledging that the church currently has some pretty mixed messaging surrounding gender roles as presented in the family proclamation. However, I encouraged her to pursue higher education and a career if it is what she wants.</p><p>&#8220;And now, verily I say unto you, and what I say unto one I say unto all, be of good cheer, little children; for I am in your midst, and I have not forsaken you;&#8221; (D&amp;C 61:36)</p><p>God is with us, and it&#8217;s young women like Yuia that give me hope for the future. Lift up your head, because a time is coming when the kingdom of heaven will be freed from the sin of patriarchy.&#8221;</p></div><p>When it comes to a feminine divine, I wish all of our LDS missionaries were instructed to lead with our doctrine of a Heavenly Mother, but instead we choose to bury the lead. As Susan has said, she is simultaneously given to us and taken away. It makes me smile to know that African sisters have the same questions I have&#8230;.<em><strong>where is the divine feminine</strong></em>? I&#8217;m grateful that Yuia and Rosine have this marvelous young missionary with which to talk about such things. Bravo, young man!</p><p>I&#8217;ll close with Carol Lynn Pearson&#8217;s famous poem on this very topic&#8212;</p><h4><strong>A Motherless House</strong></h4><p>by Carol Lynn Pearson</p><p>I live in a Motherless house,<br>A broken home. <br>How it happened I cannot learn.</p><p>When I had words enough to ask <br>&#8220;Where is my Mother?&#8221;<br>No one seemed to know,<br>And no one thought it strange <br>That no one else knew either.</p><p>I live in a Motherless house.<br>They are good to me here,<br>But I find that no kindly <br>Patriarchal care eases the pain.</p><p>I yearn for the day <br>Someone will look at me and say, <br>&#8220;You certainly do look like your Mother.&#8221;</p><p>I walk the rooms, <br>Search the closets,<br>Look for something that might <br>Have belonged to her&#8212;<br>A letter, a dress, a chair. <br>Would she not have left a note?</p><p>I close my eyes <br>And work to bring back her touch, her face.<br>Surely there must have been <br>A Motherly embrace <br>I can call back for comfort. <br>I live in a Motherless house,<br>Motherless and without a trace.</p><p>Who could have done this? <br>Who would tear an unweaned infant <br>From its Mother&#8217;s arms <br>And clear the place of every souvenir?</p><p>I live in a Motherless house.<br>I lie awake and listen always for the word<br>That never comes, but might.<br>I bury my face <br>In something soft as a breast.</p><p>I am a child&#8212; <br>Crying for my Mother in the night.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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2026 13:40:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qBpk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc1a26d4-41f2-42fa-96a6-4e4d55844d40_6240x4160.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qBpk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc1a26d4-41f2-42fa-96a6-4e4d55844d40_6240x4160.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qBpk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc1a26d4-41f2-42fa-96a6-4e4d55844d40_6240x4160.jpeg 424w, 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As we were seated and waiting for the ceremony to start, my daughter asked me if I was going to cry. &#8220;People cry at weddings because they are so happy, are you going to cry mom?&#8221; &#8220;Maybe,&#8221; I told her, but I remember thinking that I knew I would cry, but not for the same reasons that others in attendance would be crying.</p><p>I would cry because her guest list was only limited by how many people would fit in the venue. I had to choose based on who had temple recommends, which meant many close friends and family, including three of my siblings, were not able to attend. One of my brothers would have been able to attend, but he was on a mission at the time. The guest list was mostly older relatives and friends of my mother&#8217;s.</p><p>I would cry because her sister officiated the wedding. There&#8217;s a lot to cry about right there in that sentence. The fact that she had such an intimate connection to the bride added a special touch that you just rarely get in a temple sealing. And to be able to choose anyone? Even a woman? I couldn&#8217;t even tell you the name of the person who sealed me and my husband. And well, he was obviously a man.</p><p>I would cry because her dress was gorgeous. I imagine she made her choice based on what made her feel beautiful. The biggest deciding factor for my dress was if it would cover my garments or not.</p><p>I would cry because she had a photographer taking pictures of the ceremony and I knew there would be pictures of her getting ready as well. Because there always are. I have no such physical reminders of my temple sealing or getting ready in the bride&#8217;s room because it wasn&#8217;t allowed.</p><p>But it wasn&#8217;t all tears of sadness and regret. I would also cry because I knew if my daughter were to get married, she would have more options than I did. Even if she did opt for a temple sealing, she could have the civil ceremony of her dreams with no waiting period. Thanks to sleeveless garments (that were not even a thing when we attended this wedding) her dress options will be greater than mine were. She could choose female witnesses. And probably other changes could affect her day that I couldn&#8217;t even imagine right now. I&#8217;m grateful for the changes that she can potentially benefit from, but I mourn what I didn&#8217;t have.</p><p>So yes, my sweet girl, I will cry.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPkC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffbcdc0e7-d161-46a3-8872-f7e8d7e23b46_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPkC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffbcdc0e7-d161-46a3-8872-f7e8d7e23b46_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">image by the author</figcaption></figure></div><h2>What Stopped Me</h2><p><strong>by Xenial Mormon Mom</strong></p><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;7be7673a-c119-4f33-b678-a35d587528af&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:50.573063,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><p>He didn't pin me down <br>So what held me there? <br>Frozen <br></p><p>He didn't pin me down <br>My body isn't bruised <br>So what stopped me <br>From stopping him? </p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't want to cause a scene <br>I thought I could get us out of this situation without... <br>embarrassing<em> him</em> <br><br><br><br>In fiction, women have their wits about them <br>They use their cunning and time freezes for them to think of a trick</p><p>I freeze - not time <br>No trick, no cunning, no wit <br>It's too late </p><p></p><p>He didn't pin me down <br>I didn't kick him away <br>I covered my face and repeated, <br>"I said no, I said no, <br>I said no."</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Ladies, please stop dressing so provocatively." <br>"We need you to help the poor boys with their thoughts."<br>"It's the woman's job to hold the moral line. <br>"Men can't help themselves." <br>"We just need you to dress modestly." <br>"Don't be so pushy." <br>"Assertiveness is not attractive." <br>"Boys don't want a controlling woman." <br>"He has so much of his life ahead of him."<br>"It would be a shame to cause him any trouble." <br>"You don't want to ruin his life, now do you?" <br>"Think of the man's needs first." <br>"Honor and obey him." <br>"What were you wearing?" <br>"She was asking for it." <br>"Steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action."<br><em>&#8220;<strong>If it's a legitimate rape</strong>, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.&#8221;</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L1RJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0bec5d76-49d3-42e6-9b8b-8db6cc59a347_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L1RJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0bec5d76-49d3-42e6-9b8b-8db6cc59a347_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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The idea that one man and one woman were created is reinforced in the temple. I wondered why God didn&#8217;t create Adam, Eve, Juanita, Olga, Greta and Jane? If the purpose was to be fruitful and multiply, wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to do so if Adam had multiple partners? After all, if God could create one woman, He could create several. If polygamy is important to God, then why wasn&#8217;t it created from the start? It doesn&#8217;t make sense. Polygamy never made sense to me.</span></p><p><span>We are told to judge things by their fruit. I don&#8217;t see much good fruit when I look at the Old Testament families. I see women abusing other women. I see handmaids being handed over to men to produce children for their mistresses. I see a man sending his wife/concubine and son into the desert with a skin of water and a loaf of bread. I see infertile women being taunted for something outside their control. I see women unsuccessfully trying to gain the love of their husbands. I see men selling one of their brothers as a slave to a passing caravan and telling their father that the boy was killed by a wild beast. I see cousins at war using the word shibboleth to identify the cousins they want to capture and kill. I see descendants of a family who to this day are in conflict.</span></p><p><span>I suppose there was some good fruit. Isaac and Ishmael did have families and the prophecy that Abraham would have numberless descendants came true. Leah was the mother of Judah from whom King David and Jesus descend. Joseph was in Egypt in a position to store grain and save the lives of his family members and others during a famine. Hannah eventually had a son who became the prophet Samuel.</span></p><p><span>This isn&#8217;t good fruit stemming from polygamy. To me this is God&#8217;s way of turning bad human behavior into something good. A God that can bring resurrection out of crucifixion can surely do these lesser things.</span></p><p><span>I contrast these stories from the Old Testament with a story from the New Testament. It starts with a young woman named Mary receiving a visit from an angel. Mary was betrothed to a man named Joseph. At no time during this story does it ever say that Joseph had multiple wives. (Although some believe that Joseph was a widower with children when he took Mary as his wife.) Mary never had to compete with another wife for the affection and attention of her husband. Joseph did not have to placate angry wives upset about other wives&#8217; children. Jesus was raised in a home with one mother and one father. If polygamy was ordained of God, wouldn&#8217;t He want His only begotten son to live in that kind of family?</span></p><p><span>What are the fruits of Jesus&#8217; family?  He was kind and considerate. He had respect for all kinds of people. He must have had good relations with his siblings as some of them were his disciples. He healed people and forgave them. At the worst hour of his life, he saw to the care of his mother and comforted a criminal who was crucified with him. This is definitely good fruit.</span></p><p><span>Polygamy doesn&#8217;t make sense. It was not present with Eve and Adam. No good fruit comes of it. Jesus was not raised in a polygamous family. The only conclusion I can come to is that polygamy is a practice of men, not of God.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qWWH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb31f46d0-550c-4d6d-ab7d-2226eed11665_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qWWH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb31f46d0-550c-4d6d-ab7d-2226eed11665_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qWWH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb31f46d0-550c-4d6d-ab7d-2226eed11665_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" 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Breaking its bounds into freedom and beauty</figcaption></figure></div><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;957d4760-9387-463c-a276-254e0fcf1187&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:477.59674,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><h2>I Awaken</h2><p><strong>by Sarah Lewis</strong></p><p><span>Each time I hear the word &#8220;polygamy&#8221;<br>something inside me aches.<br>A small, burning fury rises<br>from my stomach into my chest.<br>Bury it. Suppress it.<br>There&#8217;s no space for my feelings here.<br>Add it to the shelf alongside all the others&#8212;<br>My wonderings, my instincts, my fears.</span></p><p><span>Occasionally the fire of courage ignites<br>and I allow the hurt to settle, but<br>don&#8217;t tread those waters. &#8220;Doubt your doubts<br>before you doubt your faith.&#8221;<br>And so again, deep down inside<br>I smash those embers down<br>under the weight of patriarchy&#8217;s heavy bricks,<br>while a tear drips down my face.</span></p><p><span>Years pass by while I press on<br>fulfilling nature&#8217;s role.<br>No time, no space for flickers here;<br>a wife and mother in Zion I must be.<br>I strive every day to be righteous,<br>to perform most perfectly.<br>I&#8217;ve become so good at doing it all<br>at the cost of being me.</span></p><p></p><p>One day I begin to wonder,</p><p></p><p><span>Who am I?<br>What do I need?</span></p><p><span>My role has stripped it all from me;<br>am I anything underneath?<br>The smoldering inside me still remains;<br>The smoke seeps into my bones.<br>It&#8217;s heavy.<br>I hurt.<br>What&#8217;s wrong with me?<br>I&#8217;m weak.<br>I&#8217;m not enough.</span></p><p><span>Each day I try anew<br>to be patient, kind, and strong,<br>but the boulders of burden pound me until I crack<br>breaking out of nowhere an inner rage.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span>Shame is ugly and pervasive<br>Breeding dark thoughts in my mind.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span>I tell myself,<br>&#8220;Go to the temple, pray and read more. Do it right.&#8221;<br>(The given recipe to feel the light.)<br>I&#8217;m a good and righteous Mormon girl<br>so I follow the prescription:<br>Attend all meetings, study general conference, fulfill your calling,<br>pray and read your scriptures.</span></p><p><span>I can&#8217;t stay awake in the temple.<br>Reading scriptures puts me to sleep.<br>Do I even know my Savior?<br>Too much is blocking His reach.<br>Slowly I begin to realize<br>there is only one of me.<br>How can I ever do all of these things?</span></p><p><span>Must I admit defeat?</span></p><p><span>All of my time is given to others.<br>I ignore my body&#8217;s whispers<br>to &#8220;Back off, slow down, you&#8217;re nearing the edge.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Continuously I persevere.<br>I only know one gear:<br>Full throttle toward perfection.<br>I reallocate my time to more pressing needs<br>but never lessen my pressure against the pedal.<br>Now my body starts to scream,<br>&#8220;Too much! Too fast! No more!&#8221;<br>Depression chips away my hope<br>and exhaustion overtakes me.<br>I feel helpless and burned out.<br>My own kids won&#8217;t even respond to me.<br>How can I keep pressing on<br>when every expectation overwhelms me?<br>The burning, expanding anxiety I feel<br>almost incapacitates me.<br>Full panic is just around the corner<br>if I don&#8217;t get a handle on things!</span></p><p></p><p>And then,</p><p></p><p><span>One simple invitation<br>opens the door for me<br>to look inside, behind, beyond&#8212;<br>Permission to discover what this hurt could mean.</span></p><p>And so I grab a match.</p><p><span>Then with courage and equal fear,<br>I strike and it becomes the spark<br>to ignite my long-suppressed embers.<br>With welcoming, yet timid arms<br>I reach out to embrace<br>the questions of my woman soul<br>my performance of expectations always hid.</span></p><p><span>The burn and sting of shame pervade.<br>Fear fights to hold me down.<br>&#8220;Don&#8217;t listen to your inner self&#8221; it says,<br>&#8220;For then you won&#8217;t be good and worthy.&#8221;<br>Countless expectations rule over me.<br>Is this what Christ wants from me?<br>Finding Him eludes me still;<br>how did I never learn how?</span></p><p><span>Why have I needed permission<br>to consider spirituality another way?<br>Strong women inspire me to take that for myself.<br>My faith journey is mine to make.</span></p><p></p><p><span>An ache resides within my soul<br>from the feeling of dismissal<br>of my Mother God, divine and infinite<br>and how manhood takes her place.<br>How could you men tuck her neatly away,<br>so ignorant of the harm it brings me?<br>You reason this is to respect and reverence her,<br>while maintaining your power to reign supreme.<br>How often have men been silenced<br>and put back in their place?<br>I don&#8217;t believe most understand,<br>for their voice has a stage.<br>Men at the helm to lead us<br>at every level in the church.<br>Patriarchy, priesthood, and preside<br>are tasting more bitter every day.</span></p><p><span>And we circle back to polygamy,<br>a dark stain on our church&#8217;s history.</span></p><p><span>That burning fury still quakes my heart.<br>This could be my eternity?!</span></p><p><span>When I vulnerably shared my honest pain with him,<br>he countered and questioned me:<br>&#8220;Since you&#8217;d have your children and family in heaven,<br>what would plural marriage actually take from you?&#8221;</span></p><p></p><p><span>I can&#8217;t put together an answer<br>into words that properly convey<br>the arrow piercing through my heart<br>as patriarchy once again aims to douse my flame.</span></p><p><span>Still struggling to articulate<br>how that question punishes me&#8230;<br>dismissal,<br>no power,<br>no equal leadership role,<br>sharing my husband,<br>a concubine to my &#8220;King&#8221;?<br>Or is it something still deeper?<br>The devaluing of feminine traits,<br>downplaying our heavy emotional labor,<br>our low self-worth,<br>our concerns,<br>our strengths?</span></p><p><span>My personal experience must influence<br>my past, my present, and my future.<br>Only God knows my inner heart.<br>His grace attends my interpretations.<br>My Gods&#8217; gift of agency to me<br>demonstrates Their confidence and Their Plan.<br>Inside me lives Their light and Their power<br>to converge with my intuition.</span></p><p><span>The opening of my heart,<br>my yearning toward heaven,<br>my veneration of nature&#8217;s beauty,<br>my pleading, hoping, thanking.<br>These are my ways of prayer these days to<br>my Mother,<br>my Father,<br>my Jesus.<br>All Gods to me,<br>separately,<br>I seek to know each one.</span></p><p><span>The greatest gift I can offer to God<br>is to be wholly and only me,<br>to step into my God-given capacities&#8212;<br>love, goodness, strength, learning, growth, empathy.</span></p><p><span>And yet, despite my longings, sometimes<br>a certain sadness visits me.<br>I feel lonely, worn, unknowing.<br>What do I want?<br>What do I need?<br>I seek to know and comprehend<br>what has been dampened down.</span></p><p><span>With each stumbling step toward my Christ<br>my understanding broadens.<br>Immense feelings once brushed aside,<br>my gleaming fire now invites in.<br>Slowly I come to know Him<br>through His love, His kind teaching, His suffering.<br>His adoration and respect for women was evident<br>In his every interaction.<br>Surely this Brother of ours,<br>so perfect and benevolent,<br>knew His Mother in Heaven above,<br>and now aches while we, seeking Her, are starving.</span></p><p><span>This feminine awakening stirred my slumber;<br>I join my sisters, strong.<br>O, Mother God of women, Divine,<br>guide and embolden me along.<br>Help me to find my buried voice<br>and the courage to share it wide,<br>To awaken the fire in others&#8217; souls<br>where true love and knowing reside.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/207729481?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xHfu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4534c7-49e9-4e74-adcd-ffa8b3e57fb9_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><h4>From a listener:</h4><p><em>I am a mom of a young woman. She&#8217;s 14. Every path that she&#8217;s been told will lead to success is probably not there. Nursing, education, computer science, science at all&#8212;these are paths that are traditionally held out. Doctors. Lawyers. But the costs of education are so high. She&#8217;s an athlete. She&#8217;s trusting in her athletics to cover her schooling so that she can get a degree in the first place.</em></p><p><em>She&#8217;s getting the same messages her aunts got. I was never a YW. I&#8217;m a convert. And I always grew up with the idea that I will work and have a career. Being a mother was never ever on my radar. And being a mother isn&#8217;t on her radar. She pushed back in seminary when they said the equivalent of priesthood for women is motherhood. She asked what happens if she can&#8217;t physically have kids? Or if she can&#8217;t afford them. What happens if things don&#8217;t work out. Is she less? And why is her spirituality tied to something about her body? Isn&#8217;t she worth more than that. And I guess she inspired a revolt because I got the joy of meeting with the seminary teachers.</em></p><p><em>I&#8217;m shocked at how resilient these girls are. And how willing they are to take their friendships from seminary and all into the real world and rely on those. They have hope. They have amazing ideas. And they do not let adults squash on them at all. But the messages they&#8217;re getting are still the same ones her aunts got. It is just not the same world, but it is the same messages.</em></p><p><em>At some point the church is going to have to adapt or they will lose all the young women. She knows several gay young women who are in seminary because they believe, but who have plans to leave the church because the church can&#8217;t accept them. She&#8217;s decided that she won&#8217;t continue when she&#8217;s on her own either because the church lacks the flexibility or general desire to change with and support the youth as they are experiencing the world, and relies on the &#8220;older&#8221; times instead of leaning into what they are going through now.</em></p><p><em>-Natasha</em></p><div><hr></div><h3>Contributors: </h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B3mQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd146f27e-7876-4ace-9d54-a19a60b94dda_1544x1160.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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She has four kids, but the oldest two are adults and she is clearly still trying to figure out how to navigate that and determine where it is exactly that they live. She enjoys reading, playing the piano, wasting time on her phone, traveling, and training in karate.</p><div><hr></div><h4>Xenial Mormon Mom</h4><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VlJQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06334615-8200-4fea-a583-0fc3267afca6_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VlJQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06334615-8200-4fea-a583-0fc3267afca6_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, 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She works as a pharmacist. Her hobbies are reading, writing, biking hiking and knitting. She also likes baking cookies and banana bread. Raised in a two faith family, she is interested in the practices in other Christian faiths.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg" width="437" height="323.24793956043953" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1077,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:437,&quot;bytes&quot;:816639,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/207729481?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k84j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe32ba287-d576-4c10-8eef-8741510634bc_1491x1103.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Sarah Lewis </h4><p>Sarah loves being active and outdoors, appreciating nature's beauty. She is passionate about connecting with others, always learning, and finding her voice. Her faith journey has led her to being open to questions, letting go of guilt and shame, coming to trust her inner knowing, redefining God, and curating her own life. She is actively choosing what remains and what or who doesn't support or uplift her. She is the newly single mother of six children. Excited for her future, she believes we all have the power and capacity to determine what that looks like for ourselves.</p><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share At Last She Said It&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share At Last She Said It</span></a></p><p><em>The ALSSI community keeps growing, thanks to your support. Please keep spreading the word! Be sure to check out our chat feature&#8212;it&#8217;s another benefit of your paid subscription. 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;bf82b607-b336-4955-a6c4-5cbbcfd6d64c&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:556.382,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><p><strong>by Susan Hinckley</strong></p><h4><span>I don&#8217;t know where or when I learned that I would need to do things to earn love.</span></h4><p><span>I can&#8217;t pin it down&#8212;it seems like knowledge I was born with. In this kind of paradigm, Being Better = More Love, so from a young age I started trying to be the best at everything.</span></p><p><span>I tried to please teachers, parents, friends. I tried to be popular (not much success there), win awards (more there, but spoiler: awards don&#8217;t make you feel loved, they just make you worry about how you&#8217;ll top it next time). I got voted &#8220;best dressed&#8221; one year in school, &#8220;best smile&#8221; another. Sure I&#8217;m still secretly riding high from those Jr. High titles&#8212;let&#8217;s be honest&#8212;but I didn&#8217;t really </span><em><span>believe</span></em><span> either one of them. Still don&#8217;t. &#8220;Awkward&#8221; and &#8220;not quite </span><em><span>fill-in-the-blank</span></em><span> enough&#8221; are the designations I assigned myself in school, and those are the ones that stuck.<br><br>Religion made sense to me, because it was a scheme to earn God&#8217;s love by becoming very very good, and hopefully even perfect. Religion also taught me I was not naturally good, not inherently worthy, not a beloved child in any way I could feel or believe. It was confusing&#8212;church told me God loved me out of one side of its mouth while insisting God couldn&#8217;t stand me the way I am out of the other.</span></p><p><span>I honestly thought that the point of Christianity was transcending my humanity, that the &#8216;good news&#8217; was we don&#8217;t have to be what we are&#8212;and what we are is fundamentally not okay&#8212;because Jesus can fix it! It was based on someone who was better than anyone else who ever lived on this planet: who resisted all temptation, performed miracles, walked on water, then punctuated his example with the heretofore unimaginable trick of resurrection, literally transcending his mortality.</span></p><p><span>I certainly didn&#8217;t absorb the idea that my humanness was one of the essential things about me. That it was key to connection, or the pathway to love.</span></p><p><span>It would never have occurred to me that humanness was the mirror in which I could glimpse Divinity.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></span></p><p><span>The day I met God&#8212;and let me explain what that means: it means one day I met the understanding that I actually am okay, beloved even, and always have been, </span><em><strong><span>as is</span></strong></em><span>&#8212;was like going around a corner and finding myself in a completely different world. A world I was not only allowed but meant to love, full of humans like me who were also beloved. Once I turned that corner, it disappeared. There could be no going back.<br><br>The Rev. Jacqui Lewis writes, </span><em><span>&#8220;What if the goal of our lives of faith is to have this revelation: The only way to love God is to love yourself so you can love the world?&#8221;</span></em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a><span> The first 50 years of my life, I wouldn&#8217;t have known what to do with that sentence. It would have sounded nice, but love of self simply wasn&#8217;t in my wheelhouse.</span></p><p><span>Loving the world came very naturally, but was mostly something I kept quiet around other Latter-day Saints. The idea that I had sensed God&#8217;s presence much more regularly in places other than church would have required some explanation. An ongoing negative narrative about it left me conflicted and confused by my private affection for the world, quietly confirming a deep fear: that for some reason I could neither understand nor control, my faith must be faulty or deficient.</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;d always secretly been on the side of people. I loved the things we did and invented and said and wrote and made. I remember coming home from a movie once, overwhelmed by the beauty of its complex portrayal of relationships between deeply flawed characters&#8212;something about their interactions had pulled up a chair for me, assured me it was okay to sit down in my own life, that I deserved to be comfortable. I said something about this to my father-in-law&#8212;so often a reassuring light in my church life&#8212;and he responded a bit disapprovingly that for him, the movie was too humanistic.</span></p><p><span>Well, yes &#8230; exactly.</span></p><div class="pullquote"><h4>&#8220;Being spiritual is much easier than being human.&#8221;</h4></div><p><span>Carmen Acevedo Butcher teaches that, </span><em><span>&#8220;Being spiritual is much easier than being human.&#8221;</span></em><span> This simple framing stopped me in my tracks the first time I heard her say it. Rarely has anything explained </span><em><span>myself</span></em><span> to me in such a simple and profound way. For me, being a Latter-day Saint made being human feel like a tricky proposition. It set up an adversarial relationship between me and myself, between me and God, and as I think about it now, between me and every other human. It made me jump hurdles for love, placed rules around the love I was allowed to feel myself and express for others. This fueled a deep-rooted loneliness and distrust of </span><em><span>all of it, </span></em><span>setting me up for a true crisis when the wheels of my religious life suddenly flew off.</span></p><p><span>If religion could no longer be my conduit for seeking connection with God, would I have to just give up on the whole relationship? Even though church hadn&#8217;t really gotten me the feelings or insights I was seeking, I&#8217;d dug in hopefully, because I didn&#8217;t know there could be any legit god-connection outside it.</span></p><p><span>Christianity has not rewarded a fully-embodied spirituality. If people can know The Source in their bones, why do they need the church? So the church is invested in keeping us separated from the truth of our own bones and hearts and humanity.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I0Co!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc151ddbf-9ddf-49d1-9001-c961bbc17c22_1920x2012.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I0Co!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc151ddbf-9ddf-49d1-9001-c961bbc17c22_1920x2012.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I0Co!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc151ddbf-9ddf-49d1-9001-c961bbc17c22_1920x2012.jpeg 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Jesus was, after all, a person&#8212;no matter what else he may have been. But it&#8217;s not for his humanness that we are taught to emulate him&#8212;it is for having been better than we are. No wonder I learned to show up at church with only small portions of myself visible. No wonder I was taught that the natural Susan was an enemy to God. No wonder I internalized shame for my own most human parts, even though it is through that common thread that I am connected to all my siblings. How could I love the thing I had not been taught to reverence? How could I believe God loved me if I had not been taught to love myself?<br><br>So one of the biggest things that happened for me the day I suddenly realized I was beloved was that I no longer needed an </span><em><strong><span>intervention.</span></strong><span> </span></em><span>Not an atonement, at least not in the way I&#8217;d been taught to think about it.</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a><span> Not a card to certify my worthiness, nor a priesthood holder who could do essential things that filled requirements I couldn&#8217;t fill myself.</span></p><p><span>For the first time in my life, nothing at all between me and love.<br><br>It was a slippery slope, too. One minute after being granted Divine permission to love myself as I am, I realized it put my neighbor in a new light as well. I felt suddenly equipped with compassion, understanding, desire, acceptance, willingness, patience&#8212;a whole lot of things I&#8217;d never known exactly how or when to use. Love had been obscured by layers of fine print, prerequisites and conditions. As they fell away, I could see the thing underneath was actually easy to pick up and light to carry.</span></p><p><span>This also meant that rather than a conduit for connection to a god out there somewhere, church might become a conduit for connection with other people. A love lab, where I could grow in self-knowledge and understanding while I learn what it means to live the great commandment, to internalize the one thing we were sent here to really know.</span></p><p><span>Jesus didn&#8217;t come to teach us how to get out of being human, but to show us how to love while we are.</span></p><p><span>An idea expressed by Rabbi Donniel Hartman</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a><span> describes the Jesus I think of when I read his teachings and experiences: </span><em><span>&#8220;A life of faith isn&#8217;t just about walking with God, but how one walks with humanity.&#8221;</span></em><span> I think that&#8217;s about how I walk with my own humanity, in addition to how I walk with everyone else.</span></p><p><em><span>&#8220;My deepest me is God!&#8221;</span></em><span> declared St. Catherine of Genoa.</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a><span> This means the thing at my center can&#8217;t be sin, or shortcoming. In such a view, there can be no deficiency in being human, only divinity. Feeling God&#8217;s love is just&#8212;</span><em><span>feeling love.</span></em></p><p><span>I become the pebble in the pond from which all the circles radiate. God&#8217;s love originates </span><em><span>in me.</span></em><span> I never need to be instructed in it, or go someplace holy to experience it, or put myself in the right mindset or soul-set to receive it. The concept of qualifying for it feels as nonsensical as earning my breath.</span></p><p><span>I talk a lot about a God of relationship, and as I check in with myself about what that phrase means or looks or feels like for me today, the first word that bubbles up is simply connection: humans and all creation, with and within each other, one living whole. I&#8217;m trying to learn to stay awake to this world as much as I can: aware of each moment and my place in it, fully inhabiting&#8212;committed to and content with&#8212;my part. </span></p><p><em><span>&#8220;Love yourself,&#8221;</span></em><span> explains Jacqui Lewis. If that sounds simple, the rest of her sentence blows it out to engulf everything else I know now or may ever learn: </span><em><span>&#8220;&#8212;so you can love the other, so you can love the world.&#8221;</span></em><span> I may have gotten a late start, but I&#8217;m willing to work on this for the rest of my life.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KK_w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb5e487-2848-4a8b-b7a6-0b5f1e554a51_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KK_w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb5e487-2848-4a8b-b7a6-0b5f1e554a51_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><h4>Susan Hinckley</h4><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oJe6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc5cdf13-8bc0-4fab-b25b-2a0ea3e5bcc8_900x1219.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oJe6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc5cdf13-8bc0-4fab-b25b-2a0ea3e5bcc8_900x1219.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oJe6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc5cdf13-8bc0-4fab-b25b-2a0ea3e5bcc8_900x1219.jpeg 848w, 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href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/972054.Christian_Mystics?ac=1&amp;from_search=true&amp;qid=Tvpq2DUVzT&amp;rank=1">Christian Mystics: Their Lives and Legacies throughout the Ages</a></strong></em> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><span>Jacqui Lewis, &#8220;Apocalypse Now: Love, Believing, and Seeing,&#8221; </span><em>Oneing</em><span> 10, no. 1, </span><em>Unveiled</em><span> (Spring 2022). Available in </span><strong><a href="https://store.cac.org/collections/all/products/copy-of-oneing-unveiled">print</a></strong><span> and </span><strong><a href="https://store.cac.org/collections/all/products/oneing-unveiled-pdf-download">PDF download</a></strong></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The concept of atonement still has value for me, it just functions differently&#8212;another essay.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>via Jacqui Lewis, <em>above</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong><a href="https://cac.org/daily-meditations/made-in-the-divine-image-2021-10-27/">Made in the Divine Image</a></strong></em>, Center for Action and Contemplation, 10/27/2021</p><div><hr></div><p> <em>Thanks for supporting ALSSI. 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We received an email from a podcast listener named Carol who spotted grace out in the wild, okay she actually spotted it in academia, and we wanted to share a bit of it with you all&#8212;</span></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span> &#8220;One study of Latter-day Saint students examined the connection between legalism, grace, and perfectionism. Researchers found that experiencing grace related to more healthy perfectionism and less toxic perfectionism. Legalism was related to a lower likelihood of experiencing God&#8217;s grace and was also related to more anxiety, depression, and shame.</span><strong><span> </span></strong><span>It was clear from the survey findings that legalistic thinking (which does not acknowledge God&#8217;s grace) was related to substantial problems for Latter-day Saint students.&#8221; <br>&#8212;</span>&#8220;Religion and Perfectionism,&#8221; <em>BYU Studies</em></p></div><p>How amazing is it that the data from a Brigham Young University study<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> is supporting grace? I don&#8217;t love the phrase &#8216;healthy perfectionism&#8217;, but I can appreciate the distinction the researcher is trying to make.  </p><p>After receiving Carol&#8217;s email, I read the article she sent in BYU Studies. Basically, researchers found that <span>religion itself is not the primary cause of toxic perfectionism; rather, it is the </span>manner<span> in which we engage with religious standards. </span><strong><span>T</span>he harmful effects of perfectionism can be mitigated <span>if our teachers, parents, and church leaders can foster in us an </span></strong><em><strong><span>intrinsic</span></strong></em><strong><span> motivation and a </span></strong><em><strong><span>grace-based</span></strong></em><strong><span> understanding of faith.  </span></strong></p><p><span>Yikes! That seems like a really tall order, especially in a church that struggled to teach me </span><em><strong><span>anything</span></strong></em><span> about grace. And I&#8217;m not alone! I remember years ago reading a BYU Magazine article by Sheri Dew about grace</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a><span>. She admits grace wasn&#8217;t fostered in her or a friend either&#8212;</span></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Her e-mail led me to ask another friend what she wished she understood about grace. &#8216;To tell you the truth,&#8217; she said, &#8216;TV evangelists have wrecked that word for me. I almost feel disloyal to the restored gospel even talking about grace. I mean, do <em>we</em> believe in grace?&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tAf1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc1827e8-2705-4623-b4fd-52cea7f5d849_1536x2048.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tAf1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc1827e8-2705-4623-b4fd-52cea7f5d849_1536x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tAf1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc1827e8-2705-4623-b4fd-52cea7f5d849_1536x2048.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">page 59 in our book, <em><strong>At Last She Said It: Honest Conversations about Faith, Church, and Everything in Between</strong></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>I had to go on my own Grace Journey. And after that long and painful search, I am determined to continue to peddle grace to anyone who will listen. Maybe someday we will believe our own Jesus-y stuff about grace.</span></p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8220;Most of Jesus&#8217;s parables are about God&#8217;s grace. How about the parable of the two debtors in Matthew 18? Basically, one person owes a ton of money that they&#8217;ll never be able to repay, and that debt is wiped clean. The parable of the prodigal son? He spends all of his inheritance, then his dad throws him a party and gives him a feast. What about the parable of the wedding banquet found in Matthew 22? The wedding was filled with, as the scriptures say, good guests and bad guests. All of these parables are stories of unearned abundance.&#8221;</p><p>At Last She Said It: Honest Conversations About Faith, Church, and Everything in Between, page 61</p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/204954204?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/peddling-grace?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/peddling-grace?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Check out all our episodes on grace. Listen on your favorite podcast app or right here on Substack &#8211; Episodes <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/we-dont-believe-our-own-stuff-grace">16</a>, <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-41-grace-is-the-antidote">41</a>, <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-74-the-parable-of-the-laborersgrace">74</a>, <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-130-speaking-in-sacrament">130</a>, and <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/the-grace-peddlers-are-back">172</a>. Also, there are 86 references to grace<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/at-last-she-said-it-honest-conversations-about-faith-church-and-everything-in-between-cynthia-winward/bd7a069b5f986b03?ean=9781560855217&amp;affiliate=110987"> in our book.</a></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><span>Goodman, Michael A. (2024) &#8220;Religion and Perfectionism,&#8221; </span><em>BYU Studies</em><span>: Vol. 63: Iss. 4, Article 8. Available to read </span><a href="https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol63/iss4/8/?utm_source=scholarsarchive.byu.edu%2Fbyusq%2Fvol63%2Fiss4%2F8&amp;utm_medium=PDF&amp;utm_campaign=PDFCoverPages"><span>here</span></a><span>.</span></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>https://magazine.byu.edu/article/sheri-dew-sweet-above-all-that-is-sweet/</p><p></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[About Religious Liberty]]></title><description><![CDATA[by Susan Hinckley]]></description><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/about-religious-liberty</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/about-religious-liberty</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 11:01:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>by Susan Hinckley</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DBsH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbb4af9-7da8-4ef8-9862-54fe3418f70b_1400x1000.jpeg" width="1400" height="1000" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As part of our 250th anniversary observance, U.S. Latter-day Saints are invited to participate in a unified fast on July 5th &#8220;to express gratitude for religious liberty and to pray that it be strengthened throughout the world."<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a><br><br>Our 11th Article of Faith says:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.&#8221;</p></div><p>I believe in religious freedom and wonder why our leaders don&#8217;t get a little more specific about what they&#8217;re thinking of when they use that phrase. The fact that they don&#8217;t leaves room for me to engage with it for myself, and I&#8217;m going to take full advantage of that precious mental space.<br><br>First, I&#8217;m going to call out the fact that when Joseph Smith penned this article, he should have said &#8220;people,&#8221; but I&#8217;ll overlook that and just remind us all that &#8220;men&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really mean &#8220;everyone,&#8221; and words matter. In 2026, I think we could consider updating language where it would be easy to do so, to reflect current usage and culture.</p><p>Secondly, I hope all church members recognize that in order to be real, any religious liberty you publicly proclaim being devoted to must exist for YOU as a Latter-day Saint&#8212;<em>inside the Church</em>&#8212;as well as for everyone outside it.<br><br>Need to change the way you think or talk about God? A <em><strong>She</strong></em> perhaps? A <em><strong>They</strong></em>?<br><br>Need to pray using different words? Maybe even completely different practices?<br><br>Need to start coming at scriptural interpretation a bit more broadly, and a bit less literally?<br><br>Need to ask big questions about stuff, and maybe stop focusing so much on having the answers?<br><br>Need to talk about whatever you struggle with&#8230;<em>out loud?</em><br><br>Not a comprehensive list of possibilities of course, but I hope you&#8217;ll feel <em><strong>at liberty</strong></em> to change, adapt, and grow in your religious and spiritual life in any way your relationships and experiences may call you to do so. Why wouldn&#8217;t we take Joseph at his word, secure in the idea that being LDS need not prohibit us from worshiping how, where, or what we may, and according to the dictates of our own conscience?</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;When the missionaries were sent out into the different parts of the world, they began loving the people they worked with. This broadened their scope of understanding about what all human beings have in common. They began to understand the concept of &#8216;Other sheep I have which are not of this fold&#8217; (3 Ne. 15:21).&#8221;<br><em>&#8212;Chieko N. Okazaki</em> (2)</p></div><p>There are things in our culture and history that make religious liberty a naturally resonant topic for Latter-day Saints. I think we&#8217;re generally pretty insistent on it for ourselves as a church, and therefore invested in defending it for others.</p><p>Allowing all people to find meaning and connection however and wherever they may is a worthwhile goal. Can you love people enough to give them space to express what matters to them, and why it does? Can you get out of the way to let them figure that out for themselves?<br><br>What about in a Relief Society lesson?<br><br>I wish I&#8217;d felt more freedom to think, reason, feel, believe differently, and ask questions throughout my life as a Latter-day Saint&#8212;you know, the things humans need to grow and develop spiritually. I&#8217;ve been in these pews and classrooms for well over half a century, and if we&#8217;re going to make noise about religious liberty as a church, from here on out my noise as a member is going to focus on defending our diversity of thoughts, ideas, spiritual needs and practices <em>from the tyranny of ourselves.</em><br><br>It&#8217;s an interesting focus for a fast&#8212;I think we generally reach for a fast when we&#8217;re hoping to get God&#8217;s attention, and in this case we really only need to get the attention of ourselves and the people around us. After all, God doesn&#8217;t vote. God also doesn&#8217;t keep people in boxes, but some of us are prone to keeping ourselves and everyone else&#8212;including<em> Them</em>&#8212;in one.<br><br>Wishing you a happy July 4th, however, wherever, or whatever you may be celebrating.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0wKf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd7d055-a84f-4d19-8b2d-2defd3675113_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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you can find the Chieko Okazaki quote <em><strong><a href="https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V45N01_CO.pdf">here</a></strong></em></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Looking Down]]></title><description><![CDATA[by Susan Hinckley]]></description><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/looking-down</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/looking-down</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 15:55:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHaB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24ca4119-191b-46b9-9bbd-8549278bdbb2_1400x1000.webp" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>by Susan Hinckley</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>&#8220;God is the presence that spares us from nothing, even as God unexplainably sustains us in all things.&#8221;</strong><br><em>&#8212;James Finley</em></p></div><p>I was watching the news last night with sadness and a deeply unsettled feeling as they continued to pull people&#8212;some still alive!&#8212;from the rubble in Venezuela following last week&#8217;s earthquakes. The coverage highlighted the story of a man buried under the rubble of two buildings, apparently protected by the small parking booth where he was working in an underground garage when the world came down. But it&#8217;s rescue-Jenga&#8212;they can&#8217;t figure out how they can get to him when any piece they pull might lead to further collapse. His wife watches nearby, taking small comfort in the fact that, 6 days in, the rescuers have finally been able to get water to him.</p><p>As I tried to put myself in her shoes&#8212;and couldn&#8217;t, really&#8212;I thought about the many thousands of collapses happening every minute of every day on this precarious earth of ours. We&#8217;re forced to walk a bridge, and there&#8217;s no getting off it. But it&#8217;s an unreliable bridge: every now and then, often without warning, it just&#8230;collapses. We try to avoid looking down, distracting ourselves in every way we can from the chasm. But there it is.</p><p>Learning to embrace that reality has become key to my peace and well-being. If that sounds nonsensical, let me explain. I&#8217;m not perfect&#8212;I over-scroll and over-eat and over-spend to distract myself all day every day. I take too many pills, probably exercise more than I need to, hoping to stave off the inevitable. I&#8217;m definitely still learning and will need more practice.<br><br>But the peace-giving shift for me is that I finally understand: if no one deserves a tragedy, how can anyone deserve a blessing? I can't deserve a blessing any more than I can deserve a mountain or a baby or a giraffe or the tree growing outside my window.<br><br>I can ask for blessing, love for it, live for it, try to stay present to it in my own life and help the people around me feel and find it too. Asking for blessing is really just begging a little reassurance from God, a glimpse of divine love, and Jesus showed me how to manifest that love in the world. I have a choice whether to make this unreliable place a little easier for everyone I meet, or not.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>&#8220;God depends on us to protect ourselves and each other, to be nurturing, loving, protective people. When suffering is there, God depends on us to reach out and touch the suffering with love that it might dissolve in love.&#8221;</strong><br><em>&#8212;James Finley</em></p></div><p>But I will never be more deserving than every person in Venezuela, or anywhere else. May I never forget it.<br><br>On the day this bridge gives way beneath my feet&#8212;<em>it will, I&#8217;ve been watching other people fly off the edge my entire life</em>&#8212;it is only love that will sustain me. Only the portion of grace I am willing to give as freely as I hope to receive it that can make me okay, when everything in the world is not. For as long as it took me to write this, anyway, it is enough.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9I4G!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a4fe587-aa59-48df-8473-100e3c152dd5_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9I4G!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a4fe587-aa59-48df-8473-100e3c152dd5_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9I4G!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a4fe587-aa59-48df-8473-100e3c152dd5_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><p>Note: More from James Finley <em><strong><a href="https://cac.org/daily-meditations/mystical-nonviolence-2023-08-04/">here</a>.</strong></em></p><div><hr></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/looking-down?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/looking-down?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Priesthood Bingo!]]></title><description><![CDATA[by Cynthia Winward]]></description><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/priesthood-bingo</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/priesthood-bingo</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 18:27:38 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r048!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92a3595a-712d-4dd4-8fcf-645eff29bb52_1429x2000.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>by Cynthia Winward</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r048!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92a3595a-712d-4dd4-8fcf-645eff29bb52_1429x2000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>We posted this snarky bingo card on social media but I had a few more things to say about women and priesthood.</h4><p><span>Way back on </span><a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-97-christ-chose-women"><span>Episode 97</span></a><span>, </span><em><span>Christ Chose Women</span></em><span>, we talked about </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/vAx1LRSB9kU?si=wn1AoiAg3QHiYrvY&amp;t=2958"><span>David Bednar&#8217;s 2022 comments at the National Press Club Luncheon</span></a><span>. (Watch his body language as he answers the questions&#8230;.nervous much?) When asked about whether we would ever have a woman prophet he said:</span></p><p><em><span>&#8220;We follow the pattern of the ancient church. &#8230; The pattern anciently was that the apostles were men.&#8221;</span></em><span> </span></p><p><span>We had plenty to say about his response </span><a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-97-christ-chose-women"><span>on the episode</span></a><span>, but let&#8217;s just accept for now that it is true, that at the highest levels of governance Jesus wants only men to be apostles in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Fine. But why can&#8217;t we be bishops? If the reporter had asked him that question instead, what scripture&#8212;or &#8220;pattern&#8221;&#8212;from Jesus&#8217;s life and ministry would Bednar quote to support the Church&#8217;s ban on women clergy at the local level? What do you think? Because I can find nothing. Nada.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y6QT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69bc2329-c919-4a10-8dcf-9eb2e5621293_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y6QT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69bc2329-c919-4a10-8dcf-9eb2e5621293_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y6QT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69bc2329-c919-4a10-8dcf-9eb2e5621293_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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I will focus on the qualification &#8220;of one heart and one mind&#8221;&#8212;the principle of unity.</p><p>The scripture I just quoted in Moses is a description of the city of Enoch, and it could be argued that the description is unique to just that city. It is commonly used as a description in the church, however, as the kind of society we should be working for, since prophecies claim that Zion, the New Jerusalem, will be built in the last days, and we are also members of Zion inasmuch as we are members of stakes of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In addition, the scripture says the people were called Zion &#8220;because they were of one heart and one mind,&#8221; implying that Zion is a title bestowed on people who meet those qualifications and not just the people of Enoch. I feel it is therefore appropriate here to discuss the building of Zion as something that we can all work towards.</p><p>At this point you might be wondering about why I called this piece &#8220;How NOT to build Zion.&#8221; In addition to being an attention-grabber, this title shows that most of this essay will focus on how this scripture can be misinterpreted and how we can read it instead.</p><p>The idea of being &#8220;of one heart and one mind&#8221; can be interpreted in more than one way, and I would like to discuss one way this could be interpreted that I am going to argue is incorrect&#8212;that everyone feels, thinks, and acts exactly the same.</p><p>This is not a completely unreasonable way to understand the scripture, since other scriptures tell us, </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I say unto you, be one; and if ye are not one, ye are not mine.&#8221; (D&amp;C 38:27) </p><p>and </p><p>&#8220;I beseech you that there be no divisions among you, but that ye be perfectly joined together.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 1:10) </p></blockquote><p>However, if the idea of &#8220;one heart and one mind&#8221; is applied irresponsibly, it may be interpreted to mean that we give up our agency and individuality and all become exactly the same. I argue that sameness is undesirable as a quality in Zion, while unity can be built another way.</p><p>In the well-known book &#8220;A Wrinkle in Time&#8221; by Madeleine L&#8217;Engle, the characters Meg and Charles Wallace visit a planet called Camazotz where everyone behaves exactly the same because they are controlled by a totalitarian mind called IT that does not tolerate any deviation. When they first enter the town, they view a residential neighborhood that seems to be like a pleasant place at first but they soon discover there is a difference from what they are used to.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;In front of all the houses children were playing. Some were skipping rope, some were bouncing balls. Meg felt vaguely that something was wrong with their play&#8230; &#8220;&#8217;Look!&#8217; Charles Wallace said suddenly. &#8216;They&#8217;re skipping and bouncing in rhythm! Everyone&#8217;s doing it at exactly the same moment.&#8217;&#8230; &#8220;Then the doors of the houses opened simultaneously and out came women like a row of paper dolls&#8230; Each woman stood on the steps of her house. Each clapped. Each child with the ball caught the ball. Each child with the skipping rope folded the rope. Each child turned and walked into the house. The doors clicked shut behind them. &#8220;&#8217;How can they do it?&#8217; Meg asked wonderingly. &#8216;We couldn&#8217;t do it that way if we tried. What does it mean?&#8217;&#8221;</p></div><p>Meg and Charles Wallace continue into town and discover that these children and mothers, along with other inhabitants of the town, are under the strict control of the being IT, which uses fear and intimidation to make everything perfect. The effect is absolutely chilling: everything on the planet works perfectly because IT wills it so. IT tells the children:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;&#8217;...I thought it would perhaps save you pain if I showed you at once that it would do you no good to try to oppose me. You see, what you will soon realize is that there is no need to fight me. Not only is there no need, but you will not have the slightest desire to do so. For why should you wish to fight someone who is only here to save you pain and trouble? For you, as well as for the rest of the happy, useful people on this planet, I, in my own strength, am willing to assume all the pain, all the responsibility, all the burdens of thought and decision...And our decisions will be one, yours and mine. Don&#8217;t you see how much better, how much <em>easier</em> for you that is?&#8221; (emphasis in original)</p></div><p>The effect is quite chilling. IT&#8217;s words remind me of the arguments made by Lucifer during the council in heaven: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Behold, here am I, send me, I will be they son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.&#8221; (Moses 4: 1)</p></blockquote><p>We might often feel that the Church is teaching that everyone must be exactly the same; we certainly do have a lot of commandments and &#8220;rules&#8221; that we expect people to follow in order to be considered a &#8220;good&#8221; member. But in fact the scriptures have taught us that it is only in diversity, not sameness, that we will be able to build things properly.</p><p>Consider the teachings in 1 Corinthians 12, which compares the followers of Christ to a human body: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. And if they were all one member, where were the body? But now they are many members, yet one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 12: 17-21)</p></blockquote><p>The author explains clearly here why sameness is not only not unifying but also not useful. &#8220;And if they were one member, where were the body?&#8221; In other words, if all the people of Christ were hands, exactly as the same as each other, we would not have a unified body, but only a collection of disembodied hands. And since each of the hands was exactly the same, the body would receive no additional functionality by joining two or more of the hands together. So they are separated and each hand has only the functionality it brought to the situation.</p><p>When the people of Christ are different types of body parts, however, the body is able to be unified: &#8220;But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body.&#8221; The parts make a body together and complement each other as members of the body. In addition, each part in this diverse body has access to the utility of the other parts of the body: the eye cannot hear, and the ear cannot smell. But by being part of a great body with the other members, each body part has access to the functionality of the whole body and contributes to that greater functionality.</p><p>Discussions of spiritual gifts in the scriptures also point out that diversity is needed for increased functionality as a unified church: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;And again, I exhort you, my brethren, that ye deny not the gifts of God&#8230; And there are different ways that these gifts are administered; but it is the same God who worketh all in all; and they are given by the manifestations of the Spirit of God unto men, to profit them.&#8221; (Moroni 10: 8) </p></blockquote><p>They are given by the Spirit to profit them as a whole, not just one particular member. Therefore, the collective, unified body has access to all of the spiritual gifts, increasing its abilities in comparison to one member.</p><p>In short, Zion is not Zion in spite of diversity, but because of diversity. Those members of the church who feel they are different are just what the church needs, and the church as a whole suffers when they choose not to be part of us.</p><p>What does it mean then to be &#8220;of one heart and one mind?&#8221; How can we then understand these scriptures without understanding them to be talking about complete sameness? Consider these descriptions of the kind of mind and heart we should have:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;...Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all they heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.&#8221; (Matthew 22:37)</p><p>&#8220;...that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;&#8221; (Phillipians 1:27)</p><p>&#8220;For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:&#8221; (Hebrews 8:10)</p><p>&#8220;And ye will not have a mind to injure one another, but to live peaceably&#8230;&#8221; (Mosiah 4:13)</p><p>&#8220;Behold, the Lord requireth the heart and a willing mind;&#8221; (D&amp;C 64:34)</p><p>&#8220;Blessed are the pure in heart&#8230;&#8221; (Matthew 5:8)</p><p>&#8220;And ye shall offer for a sacrifice&#8230; a broken heart and a contrite spirit&#8230;&#8221; (3 Nephi 9:20)</p></blockquote><p>We can bring minds that are full of love, striving, peaceful, and willing to make covenants with the Lord, and hearts that are loving, contrite and pure. 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">photo by author</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Letting the Fields Lie Fallow </h2><p><strong>by Brooke RaNae Palmer</strong></p><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;ec45ee55-265f-45e9-a304-d94e626a8a20&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:680.4898,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><h4><span>I live in Southeastern Idaho, just over the Utah border in </span></h4><p><span>the first Idaho community settled by Mormon pioneers. When they arrived, the land was thick with sagebrush&#8212;wild, dry, and unpromising. What transformed it into farmland was not just effort, but an irrigation system.</span></p><p><span>To catch the spring snowmelt, they excavated reservoirs with horse teams and cast iron implements, carved canals and ditches with hand tools, and relied on gravity to carry water across hundreds of acres. It was a carefully planned feat of engineering.</span></p><p><span>Presently there are 5 canal companies and 13 reservoirs in Franklin County, and many of the ditches and canals have been encased in pipe and buried in the ground, and by-and-large, it is still gravity that sends the water where it needs to go. For more than a century, water has moved because it has been guided to move, again and again, in a carefully maintained system.</span></p><p><span>This irrigation infrastructure has shaped the land, and it shaped the people who lived on it&#8212;teaching them to produce, to maximize, to make the desert yield. Over time, farming became the dominant industry here, and with it came a rhythm: plow, sew, water, grow, harvest, repeat.</span></p><p><span>Despite improving the rate of crop production, on-demand irrigation isn&#8217;t always positive. Constant farming also depletes the ground of minerals and nutrients, which then are usually replaced with another man-made innovation: chemical fertilizers. (But that&#8217;s a subject for another day.)</span></p><p><span>As you travel north, there are &#8220;dry farm,&#8221; areas where irrigation is not able to reach. The land is too far from the reservoirs, or it is too hilly for the gravity flow to be able to work. So, these farmers have learned to farm in a different way. Some years these fields lie fallow.  To a passerby, they look abandoned: overgrown with weeds, marked by washouts where snowmelt has pooled and receded. They do not appear productive. They do not appear tended.</span></p><p><span>And yet, this too is a deliberate practice because through this period of rest, the soil is able to gather moisture deep into the ground. The weeds, when eventually turned under, become nourishment. When the field is planted again&#8212;often with hardy wheat&#8212;it draws on what has been quietly stored below the surface. The crop is able to grow without being dependent on a man-made watering system. It can even grow through a summer that gets very little rain because the moisture has been allowed to accumulate in the earth. It may yield less than irrigated land, but it yields enough. It survives.</span></p><p><span>I can guarantee that over the past 165 years, these stewards of the land have tried to come up with a way to get onto an irrigated system. It&#8217;s not for lack of ingenuity, or money, or will power. It would take a seismic shift in the landscape for something like that to happen.</span></p><p><span>On the other hand, there are thousands of acres watered by man-made irrigation, and so they&#8217;re able to produce more varied and abundant crops. They are not as limited by the amount of water that is provided by rainfall. On irrigated land, a farmer can sometimes get up to four cuttings of hay, compared to two on a dry farm.</span></p><p><span>Growing up in the church, in a community that was predominately LDS, I was part of a man-made irrigated system. I was watered consistently and thoroughly. As a child I grew both homemaking and leadership skills. As a young woman I produced a temple marriage and raised 4 wonderful children. As a member of my ward, I was a steward of Primary children, YW and YM, and Relief Society sisters. And like the irrigated fields around me, I was taught&#8212;implicitly and explicitly&#8212;to produce, produce, produce.</span></p><p><span>But then the unthinkable happened, I experienced a huge seismic shift, one that had been building up for years. There had been tremors, but I ignored them in favor of producing. This shift threw me off of the irrigation system that had been the framework of my life.</span></p><p><span>All of a sudden, the pipes that led out of my reservoir were fractured, the flow disrupted, and I learned that systems, even sustaining ones, can break if they become too rigid and confining.</span></p><p><span>I tried to limp along, doing the same things I&#8217;d always done, tried to grow the same crops, followed the same patterns, expected the same results, but without the constant water, my output shriveled up. I found myself exhausted, unable to sustain what once felt natural.  I tried to get back on the system, but returning to the old system was not an option; it no longer felt like nourishment. It felt contaminated.</span></p><p><span>What I did not realize, at first, was that I was being invited into a different method of growing&#8212;the kind practiced by dry farmers, a season of fallowness, completely reliant on mother nature.</span></p><p><span>Having observed many fallow fields over the years, I knew during this phase of fallow-ness the field would be ugly. There would be weeds growing in it. There would be washouts from melt-off and rain. My neighbors might drive by and wonder what happened to my beautifully cultivated field and why I was letting it run to ruin now.</span></p><div><hr></div><h4><span>I am learning how to let a field lie fallow. I know my field doesn&#8217;t have to look perfect, or even pretty.</span></h4><div><hr></div><p><span>However, I don&#8217;t have to rely solely on my own observations as I employ this technique. This, too, has roots in my inheritance, I have dry farming in my genetic code. Not only do I have Mormon pioneers on one side of the family, but I also come from Volga German stock. In 1762 Catherine the Great invited immigrants to settle in Russia. Many Hessian Germans formed a community on the banks of the Volga River and there they developed agricultural practices shaped by scarcity and resilience: crop rotation, soil stewardship, and the intentional leaving of land unplanted. They became some of the most important wheat growers in the empire.</span></p><p><span>However, their history, too, is marked by disruption.  By the late 19</span><sup><span>th</span></sup><span> century there had been many seismic shifts in Russian politics and eventually many of the Volga Germans emigrated to the United States. Carrying their knowledge with them to the mid-west and western states, they grew a variety of crops: rye, potatoes, sunflowers, sugar beets and the red wheat with which we are all familiar. Adaptation was not optional; it was survival.  Long before any Mormon Utahans were farming, the Volga Germans had been using innovative farming techniques, including allowing a field to lay fallow. They understood that in order to get the best production out a piece of ground, they needed to let it rest, to gather moisture and nutrients.</span></p><p><span>If the Mormon pioneers taught me how to build systems, the Volga Germans remind me how to live when those systems fail. If you Google &#8220;Volga Germans&#8221; you will see that they are known for their tenacious work ethic. If you read between the lines, you will also notice that they are farmers who understood the necessity of rest and were remarkably versatile. And while I applaud my Mormon ancestors for their tenacity and work ethic, I feel like those of us in the Mormon belt may have lost the versatility that we once had. Instead, we are relying too much on man-made irrigation to produce, produce, produce.</span></p><p><span>Now after this seismic shift in my own life, I am going to hearken back to my German roots, where a season of fallowness isn&#8217;t a liability, it isn&#8217;t unacceptable, but is counted as necessary. I am learning how to let a field lie fallow. I know my field doesn&#8217;t have to look perfect, or even pretty. It&#8217;s okay that it&#8217;s filled with weeds&#8212;unanswered questions, unfinished thoughts, grief that surfaces unpredictably. There are washouts, places where old structures have collapsed under the weight of change. From the outside, it might appear neglected, as though I have stepped away from responsibility or purpose. To be fallow is to remain present without forcing growth. It is to trust that something is happening beneath the surface, even when it cannot be measured or displayed.</span></p><p><span>This season is sustaining me in ways I could not have anticipated. It has loosened my dependence on constant production. It has reconnected me to something more elemental&#8212;something like the slow accumulation of moisture in the soil, unseen but essential. At some point, in a season when I&#8217;m strong enough, or feel good enough, or when I&#8217;ve finally figure something out, I&#8217;ll just plow everything under and those weeds will be part of the nourishment of the soil. I do not know yet what I will plant when this season ends. I suspect it will be something different from what I grew before&#8212;something that can reach deeper, something less dependent on carefully controlled systems, one that isn&#8217;t common in this LDS soil. A crop that doesn&#8217;t leave me burned-out or reliant on anything man-made.</span></p><p><span>For now, it is enough to tend this field as it is. To let the field lie fallow. To trust the work of rest. 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>A Vision of Living Thread</h2><p><strong>by Jessie Santa Maria Whittaker</strong></p><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;0b4debe0-09c9-4571-96c2-9bd52add2017&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:213.47266,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><h4><span>And it came to pass that I beheld a land covered in mist, and many </span></h4><p><span>voices were heard within it, speaking commandments and judgments to the travelers who walked there.</span></p><p><span>And the mist was thick at times, heavy with the weight of words and expectations, pressing upon the shoulders of those who passed. And at other times it parted, letting light spill gently upon the path of the traveler.</span></p><p><span>And I saw a rod of iron stretching across the land, straight and unbending, and many did cling unto it with great effort. And the rod did ascend upward unto a great building that stood high above the earth.</span></p><p><span>And the building was filled with people who looked down from lofty windows and balconies. They spoke with certainty and mocked the travelers in the mist. And though the building appeared magnificent, I perceived that it had no foundation beneath it.</span></p><p><span>And near the rod I beheld a young girl who had just loosed her hands from the iron. She looked upon the building with troubled eyes, for she knew it was not her home, yet she feared to depart from the path she had been taught.</span></p><p><span>And as I watched, a thread of gold came gently into my hands. It was soft and living, and it moved with me as I walked.</span></p><p><span>And I perceived that the thread grew brighter when I walked in compassion, and dimmed when I walked in fear, yet it did not depart from me.</span></p><p><span>And I beheld that there were many such threads moving through the mist in every direction. Some crossed and some parted, yet all were woven together into a great tapestry that stretched across the earth.</span></p><p><span>And I saw that the tapestry was not yet complete, for new threads were continually being woven into it by the lives of those who walked the earth.</span></p><p><span>And following the thread, I came unto a tree whose beauty was beyond all that I had known. And the fruit thereof filled my soul with a great and quiet love, sweet and comforting to taste.</span></p><p><span>And I beheld that the roots of the tree reached deep into the earth and drew life from hidden waters beneath the world, even from living springs that did not fail.</span></p><p><span>And the branches spread wide as though to gather all who hungered for its fruit.</span></p><p><span>And I saw that the trunk of the tree opened as a doorway, and beyond it was a garden where light and shadow dwelt together, and the light made the shadows gentle.</span></p><p><span>And I turned again and saw the young girl standing in the mist, and I went unto her and held her with compassion, for I knew her burdens and her longing for goodness.</span></p><p><span>And as we stood beneath the tree, I perceived that the light which shone there had also been within us from the beginning, a spark of the divine entrusted to our care.</span></p><p><span>And the golden threads continued to move through the world, weaving the journeys of many souls together.</span></p><p><span>And I knew then that the journey toward God was not a single road to be followed, but a living weaving of souls learning, stumbling, and shining together.</span></p><p><span>And I bore record that the love which grew from that tree was the true guide of the soul; and whosoever walked in that love need not fear the mist, for the light within them would ever lead them onward.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ksLc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c12fe33-e7fa-425b-abdd-2be552532064_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><h3>Contributors:</h3><p></p><h4>Mara</h4><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzTo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F542485e8-62ec-4f80-a602-c51c9657242d_3024x4032.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzTo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F542485e8-62ec-4f80-a602-c51c9657242d_3024x4032.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzTo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F542485e8-62ec-4f80-a602-c51c9657242d_3024x4032.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzTo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F542485e8-62ec-4f80-a602-c51c9657242d_3024x4032.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzTo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F542485e8-62ec-4f80-a602-c51c9657242d_3024x4032.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzTo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F542485e8-62ec-4f80-a602-c51c9657242d_3024x4032.jpeg" width="261" height="347.94024725274727" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Marlee Bedke</h4><p>Marlee is a &#8220;stretchy saint&#8221; that&#8217;s doing her best to find her place and voice at church. She&#8217;s become the girl that shocks her southern Utah ward by holding her daughter during her baby blessing, wearing a rainbow bracelet, finding God outside the normal Primary answers, and sharing &#8220;liberal&#8221; things on social media. She&#8217;s lucky to be married to her best friend, and they lead their home and 2 young kids as equal partners. She&#8217;s a mindful yoga teacher, a daycare supervisor, an amateur gardener, a proud firefighter wife, a sourdough baker, a hiker, a Krispy Kreme fanatic and an avid reader.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v7ER!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad682538-f1aa-4978-bea7-b34955c2a540_4000x3000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v7ER!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad682538-f1aa-4978-bea7-b34955c2a540_4000x3000.jpeg 424w, 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Her most recent work has been providing SEL education and support for middle school students. Long ago at BYU, Lisa earned a BA degree in chemistry and then a master's degree in Curriculum and Instruction, with an emphasis in the inclusive classroom. Her family owns a small artisan bakery in the small town where they live, and it is a place where their daughter, Eleanor, can have meaningful work and continue to participate in the community. Totally her husband's dream, and she is all for it! In addition to studying mental health, Lisa is loving life beyond church, running with her dogs, yoga, and writing. Also Netflix.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg" width="262" height="262" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1456,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:262,&quot;bytes&quot;:543516,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/202457934?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DSWo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77811df5-cc86-4e77-b672-2c035a42dee9_1923x1923.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Jessie Santa Maria Whittaker</h4><p>Therapist, writer, professional meaning-maker, wife, and momma. Jessie sits with big feelings, sacred questions, and nervous systems that have had a rough day&#8212;or life. She is a lover of Christmas magic, messy faith, honest stories, and the brave work of becoming fully human.</p><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share At Last She Said It&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share At Last She Said It</span></a></p><p><em>Thanks for supporting ALSSI! Have something to say? Join the conversation! 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In this essay I am speaking through my heteronormative lens which is inherently flawed. I am trying to cultivate a space of love, acceptance and safety, but I am not part of the queer community. As much as I try to understand, their experiences are not my experiences. The only way to truly learn about queer experiences is to talk to queer individuals. Hearing their lived experience is essential to the work of allyship. Please, do the work to create a safe space for your LGBTQ+ loved ones. </p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2507680,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/200135185?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8ko!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25b8ddcc-5b77-4fea-af63-35787edde644_6496x4331.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>by Blakelee Ellis</strong></p><p><em>TW: homophobia, suicide</em></p><h3>In October 2019 President Dallin H. Oaks addressed the </h3><p>women of the church during the women&#8217;s session of general conference. I was at a stake center with several of my sisters-in-law and my mother-in-law and I just couldn&#8217;t stop crying. President Oaks greeted the sisters as a &#8220;divinely assigned guardian of the eternal family,&#8221; and <a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2019/10/35oaks?lang=eng">talked</a> about the implications the doctrine of eternal marriage has for LGBTQ+ individuals.  He said,</p><blockquote><p>The work of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is ultimately concerned with preparing the children of God for the celestial kingdom, and most particularly for its highest glory, exaltation or eternal life. That highest destiny is possible only through marriage for eternity&#8230;</p><p>&#8230;That is the destiny we desire for all we love. Because of that love, we cannot let our love supersede the commandments and the plan and work of God, which we know will bring those we love their greatest happiness.</p><p>But there are many we love, including some who have the restored gospel, who do not believe in or choose not to follow God&#8217;s commandments about marriage and the law of chastity. What about them?</p><p>God&#8217;s doctrine shows that all of us are His children and that He has created us to have joy. Modern revelation teaches that God has provided a plan for a mortal experience in which all can choose obedience to seek His highest blessings or make choices that lead to one of the less glorious kingdoms. </p></blockquote><p><br>I went home after the session and sobbed to my husband. He was admittedly confused because these topics had never generated such angst in me before. In the decade we had been married, I had always accepted my siblings, but &#8220;known&#8221; that they were not living the way God wanted them to and there would be eternal consequences. So this meltdown over what President Oaks had said was very uncharacteristic for me. As I cried, I distinctly remember asking my husband, &#8220;You believe all this is true, right? This church. You think it&#8217;s true, right? Because my heart is broken and it doesn&#8217;t feel true.&#8221;</p><p>President Oaks hadn&#8217;t said anything new about the LGBTQ+ community or eternal marriage or the law of chastity. Nothing about the doctrine had changed, but my heart had. </p><p>I had just been a part of my sister&#8217;s wedding to her wife a few weeks earlier. I stood by while they pledged to love and care for each other and it didn&#8217;t seem any less godly or sacred just because it was two women. How could someone as loving, as kind, as caring as my sister receive less of God&#8217;s glory simply because she loved a woman instead of a man? Did I really believe in a Heavenly Father that would withhold love, the greatest of happiness, all his glory because two women loved each other? </p><p>The metaphorical shelf that held all of my questions about the church and it&#8217;s teachings broke and my soul was left agonizing in the rubble. It marked the beginning of so many hours examining my beliefs about the nature of God and everything I thought I knew. I had let church leaders and doctrine form my opinions about God&#8217;s plan for LGBTQ+ individuals. I listened while these white, cisgender, heterosexual men told me about the queer community and how God felt about them. Just like I listened while they told me what it meant to be a woman of God. </p><p>Everything changed for me when I stopped being told ABOUT the queer community and started actually listening TO the queer community. </p><p>I listened while brave individuals talked about reconciling their sexuality with their own beliefs in God and what it meant to be queer. It changed me. Rather than try to tell you ABOUT what some of the queer community has said, I&#8217;d encourage you to listen TO the queer community. </p><p><em>Looking for a place to start? Check out our own episodes with <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-137-lets-talk-about-healthy">Meghan Decker</a> and <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-52-what-about-queer-lds-women?utm_source=publication-search">Colette Dalton</a>. Don&#8217;t miss all the additional resources listed at the end of the essay. </em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KgSy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39a37f3d-d13f-4cb7-a601-9caa246f334a_1400x126.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KgSy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39a37f3d-d13f-4cb7-a601-9caa246f334a_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KgSy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39a37f3d-d13f-4cb7-a601-9caa246f334a_1400x126.webp 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>June is Pride month for the LGBTQ+ community and many wonder why the queer community needs a month dedicated to celebration and pride. <a href="https://www.benschilaty.com/">Ben Schilaty</a>, my friend and openly gay Latter-day Saint, recently said this:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;Pride to me is the opposite of shame. Pride is synonymous with self respect, with dignity, with honor like being proud of myself for a job well done&#8230;I know what it&#8217;s like to feel so much shame, to feel like the world would be better if I didn&#8217;t exist and to think that it would be better if I were dead than gay&#8230; There is a whole community of people who have felt the same thing. Who have once lived in shame, who felt maybe it would be better if they disappeared, but now want to live thriving, happy, long lives. That change from shame to self respect, to honor, to pride is something worth celebrating.&#8221;</p></div><p>Even though I am not queer, I&#8217;ve had my own pride awakening. </p><p>Pride that I have a gay brother and gay sister.</p><p>Pride that I know that God loves them as they are.</p><p>Pride that I am an ally.</p><p>Pride that I will navigate the uncomfortable space that being a member and being an ally creates.</p><p>Since my faith deconstruction, one of the main reasons I continue to go to church is my pride and queer allyship. I wear rainbow pins so the closeted adults in my ward know I&#8217;m a safe space. I carry a rainbow bag every week so the youth know there is someone at church that supports them just as they are. I wear a rainbow dress to church to let everyone know that we have to fight <em>for and with</em> our queer loved ones to dismantle systems of oppression. Queer folks are tired! They need allies to help share this load, <strong>but not steal the microphone. </strong></p><p>I believe allyship is a divine calling and in the current political climate, it is important to be vocal about our support for the LGBTQ+ community, especially at our places of worship. This past Sunday, in his weekly email, <em>Into The Gray</em>, <a href="https://benjaminrcremer.substack.com/">Reverend Benjamin Cremer</a> wrote:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;&#8230;We have witnessed many corners of Christianity in the United States express, support, and condone so many things that are deeply contrary to this nature of God. Things like blatant misinformation and lies. Demonizing and dehumanizing immigrants, Palestinians, Muslims, and political opponents. Sexism and misogyny. Greed and arrogance. Racism and historical whitewashing. Religious bigotry, jingoism, and nationalism. One of the most grievous things about this dynamic is that when those who claim to follow Jesus express, minimize, justify, and even support these things, they are telling the world that this is who they believe God to be too. That is the image of God they are presenting to the world and that is the only image of God some in our world will ever see.&#8221;</p></div><p>I believe the nature of God is one of deep love and grace. Listening to the queer community helped me, in part, form that belief. That is the image of God I believe we, as Latter-day Saint allies, need to reflect to the world and specifically to our fellow church members. Current <a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/general-handbook-selections/38-church-policies-and-guidelines?lang=eng">church doctrine</a> and<a href="https://assets.churchofjesuschrist.org/1d/76/1d76991533df11efbaeeeeeeac1ed7e66fbf94a7/general_handbook_guiding_principles_for_local_leaders.pdf"> policies</a> continue to alienate and wound our queer church members, particularly those in the transgender community. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FOrM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff238e1a2-ee55-495b-aaa7-67e31f77de15_1170x1170.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Maddie</figcaption></figure></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;What I would say to those sitting in the pews is that transgender Saints are wanting community just as much as anyone in church. They are looking to be loved and accepted even if their families have outcast them. Follow the example of Jesus that we read about in the New Testament. Jesus was always seeking out those that were outcast and alone.&#8221;</p></div><p>In Jeremiah 23, there is a sobering echo of how the church treats its queer members: </p><blockquote><p>1 Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!&#8221; declares the Lord. </p><p>2 Therefore this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says to the shepherds who tend my people: &#8220;Because you have scattered my flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done,&#8221; declares the Lord.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>In 2016, &#8220;<a href="https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-lgbtq-mormon-crisis-responding-to-the-empirical-research-on-suicide/">Dialogue Journal&#8221; published research</a> that suggested that suicide rates among Utah teens doubled corresponding to an increased rhetoric by the LDS church against same sex marriage. The church&#8217;s increased media focus against same sex marriage came after policy changes were released in November 2015.  The same article says that there are protective effects against suicide when people belong to a religious community and it&#8217;s no secret that LGBTQ+ people leave the church or are invited to leave at very high rates. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;It can thus be inferred that LGBTQ people are placed at higher risk when they feel unwelcome in their religious communities and end up losing the protection of religious involvement&#8230;it may seem counterintuitive that when individuals chose to leave their religion in order to experience more self-acceptance that they inadvertently experience more risk for suicide.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>I will acknowledge that individual views of the members and church culture are ever changing. This research is a decade old and perhaps the research would show something different now. </p><p>We are failing the LGBTQ+ community. They are leaving. They are dying. In a moment of tender vulnerability, queer member <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0bIQvo1in81W2gQhbIj3fp?si=0c41c4984a3a4cb3&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=27e2543b3eb84a24">Charlie Bird said</a>, &#8220;You are killing us.&#8221; We must do better. Christ is asking us to do better. Christ reached out to the marginalized and misunderstood. He gave them safety and community. Again, in Jeremiah:</p><blockquote><p> 3 I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. </p><p>4 I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,&#8221; declares the Lord.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>I believe God&#8212;through us, through allyship&#8212;is the answer. Our queer members have much they can teach us about Christ-like love, acceptance, and patience. They are forced to cultivate these things within themselves simply because of who they are and the world they live in. The queer community has so much to teach us and we are missing out on their unique understanding of divine love. Jess Payne, creator and owner of <a href="https://www.terraandsage.com/shop">Terra and Sage</a>, once told me:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XMNF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2236bb8f-1737-4203-9cbb-7785fe7996a5_1170x1169.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Jess</figcaption></figure></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;Being gay is a beautiful part of me; it reminds me not to assume things about people, to be curious about their stories, and to treat them in ways that affirm their dignity and worth.&#8221; </p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QyEO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e6a7677-b158-477e-a340-26c22a05897c_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QyEO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e6a7677-b158-477e-a340-26c22a05897c_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QyEO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e6a7677-b158-477e-a340-26c22a05897c_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QyEO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e6a7677-b158-477e-a340-26c22a05897c_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We will be tempted to ask, &#8220;How can I keep my queer loved ones in the church?&#8221; However, I think a more loving and appropriate question to ask is, &#8220;Is it safe for my queer loved ones to stay in the church?&#8221; For the queer loved ones in my life, the current church environment is not safe for them. I am being my best as an ally when I understand and help them enforce their boundaries. We miss the mark in forcing our loved ones OR ourselves into emotionally, and sometimes physically, unsafe places. Church is not for everyone. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!imnx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8b22ceb-dc15-41d4-84c5-8626b6c27f18_1170x1463.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!imnx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8b22ceb-dc15-41d4-84c5-8626b6c27f18_1170x1463.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!imnx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8b22ceb-dc15-41d4-84c5-8626b6c27f18_1170x1463.jpeg 848w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Gracee</figcaption></figure></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;To be queer is to be a trailer blazer, forging your own path through a world that can be narrow-minded and unwelcoming. It&#8217;s about rejecting labels and embracing your unique authentic self, even when society tries to mold you into something else. &#8220;</p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W-Tk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb00975d-00d6-43c8-bde3-072aa7e82aed_1170x1210.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W-Tk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb00975d-00d6-43c8-bde3-072aa7e82aed_1170x1210.jpeg 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Briggs</figcaption></figure></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;I spent a lot of my life hating myself and trying to fit into a box that wasn&#8217;t meant for me. This only led to anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation. I found that trying to be someone who I wasn&#8217;t was causing major turmoil in my life. I decided that I had to be the master of my fate and make a change.&#8221; </p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1302,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/webp&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/200135185?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZwbA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0073b961-e62f-47f0-8428-eea6d02d1d0c_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While not all queer members will stay in the church, I believe Christ is asking us to cultivate safe places of worship for everyone. We do this best when we are a loving witness to one another&#8217;s stories. We do not need to fix or rescue anything or anyone. We do not need to judge or control or coerce anything. If you are unsure of how to create a safe space in your own church, Ben wrote a <a href="https://www.benschilaty.com/post/talk-about-us">recent blog post</a> with great advice:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;There is a simple thing that anyone can do to decrease the shame and rejection LGBTQ Latter-day Saints feel.</p><p>Talk about us.</p><p>&#8230;here&#8217;s my invitation. When you share a story in a talk or a Sunday School comment about faith or prayer or hope or any other gospel principle, please include a story about an LGBTQ person when you feel inspired to do so. And if you don&#8217;t know any stories like that, there are books and podcasts and friends and neighbors galore you could learn from.</p><p>&#8230;there are people in your ward who will be buoyed up if you share a story about someone like them.</p><p>So talk about us.</p><p>Our stories matter. Your story matters. And I want to learn your story and talk about you too.&#8221;</p><p></p></div><p>If you really want to be an ally, go learn about LGBTQ+ members and talk to THEM. Ask your loved ones, &#8220;Can you tell me a bit more about what that has been like for you?&#8221; You&#8217;ll be amazed at what you can learn and how you can grow. </p><p>You&#8217;ll be amazed at the safety you can provide. </p><p></p><div><hr></div><h4>In Memoriam </h4><p>This issue is dedicated to my friend, Care Hansen, who died by suicide in 2023. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZpEe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8c09d09-bb8f-42d3-a4cf-a9b5f83f8636_1170x1170.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Here are some of the author&#8217;s favorite resources to start (or continue) on your allyship journey: </h4><p>1- <a href="https://meghandecker.com/books">Tender Leaves of Hope: Finding Belonging as LGBTQ Latter Day Saint Women </a>by Meghan Decker </p><p>2- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Mormon-Theology-Blaire-Ostler/dp/1948218410">Queer Mormon Theology</a> by Blaire Ostler </p><p>3- <a href="https://www.deseretbook.com/product/P5246287.html?srsltid=AfmBOor548rnkS4iRFXng1GTmiTEvs6r00AcUTVuodotJnjpjbbvXYNb">A Walk in My Shoes: Questions I&#8217;m Often Asked as a Gay Latter Day Saint</a> by Ben Schilaty </p><p>4- <a href="https://mrcharliebird.com/">Without the Mask: Coming Out and Coming into God&#8217;s Light</a> by Charlie Bird</p><p>5- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tabernacles-Clay-Sexuality-Gender-Mormonism/dp/1469656213">Tabernacles of Clay: Sexuality and Gender in Modern Mormonism</a> by Taylor Petrey </p><p>6- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gay-Rights-Mormon-Church-Consequences/dp/1647692113/ref=pd_lpo_d_sccl_3/133-5825521-9774829?pd_rd_w=SBGum&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.4c8c52db-06f8-4e42-8e56-912796f2ea6c&amp;pf_rd_p=4c8c52db-06f8-4e42-8e56-912796f2ea6c&amp;pf_rd_r=NZK6QDBGN45FT7837JEZ&amp;pd_rd_wg=JoLFg&amp;pd_rd_r=7a8e6ba6-b266-4971-a485-efd62d0d95d2&amp;pd_rd_i=1647692113&amp;psc=1">Gay Rights and the Mormon Church: Intended Actions, Unintended Consequences</a> by Greg Prince</p><p>7- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773">Listen, Learn, and Love: Embracing LGBTQ Latter Day Saints </a>by Richard Ostler</p><p>8- <a href="https://www.deseretbook.com/product/P5188105.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqcmDRQ5jqOAHK0tJNi43upiwT1jaU-2T17W1Y43xEwcaHD-chs">That We May Be One: A Gay Mormon&#8217;s Perspective on Faith and Family </a>by Thomas Christofferson </p><div><hr></div><h4>Need an audio format? These podcasts are great: </h4><p>1- <a href="https://alloutintheopen.org/podcast">All Out In the Open</a> (formally Questions from the Closet) by Ben Schilaty and Charlie Bird </p><p>2- <a href="https://www.liftandlove.org/podcast#ll-podcast">Lift and Love</a> by Allison Dayton</p><p>3- <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/listen-learn-love-hosted-by-richard-ostler/id1347971725">Listen, Learn and Love</a> by Richard Ostler </p><p>4- <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/called-to-queer/id1599981650">Called to Queer </a> by Collene Dalton and Kate Mower</p><div><hr></div><h4>Want to lend support? Here are some great organizations that are <em>mostly</em> Utah based:</h4><p>1- <a href="https://www.raynbowcollective.org/">Raynbow Collective </a></p><p>2- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/colorthecampus/">Color the Campus</a></p><p>3- <a href="https://www.cougarpridecenter.org/home">Cougar Pride Center</a></p><p>4- <a href="https://encircletogether.org/">Encircle </a></p><p>5-<a href="https://equalityutah.org/"> Equality Utah </a></p><p>6- <a href="https://www.theout.foundation/">The OUT Foundation</a></p><p>7- <a href="https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/">The Trevor Project </a></p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KU61!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eb600c8-79ae-48b4-9b01-24f35278fd74_1159x1127.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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All the photos in this issue are part of a project initiated by the author called, &#8220;Every Day Pride&#8221;. To see more photos from the project and read stories from the queer community, check out @every_day_pride on Instagram. You can also read about the project <a href="https://www.cityweekly.net/news/utah-pride-2023a-bigger-festival-a-new-parade-route-and-an-unapologetic-love-20012335">here</a></figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p><em>The ALSSI community keeps growing, thanks to your support. Please keep spreading the word! Be sure to check out our chat community&#8212;a benefit of your paid subscription. 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Some might call that deconstruction. Some might call that faith expansion. Some might call is a faith journey or a faith crisis. Whatever you want to call it is up to you. I call it my spiritual tower. Since then, I have been listening to my heart and depending not on certainty, but on agency and trust in my own relationship with my God Parents. I&#8217;ve had the gift of using doubt as a guide and defining faith as flexible. The process of rebuilding my spiritual tower is a journey that is messy, complicated, frustrating, but it&#8217;s also so, so beautiful. I want to talk about 4 of my 5 foundational blocks in my spiritual tower: mercy, grace, love, and Jesus. It&#8217;s all I really have, and it&#8217;s enough.</p><p>Because music means something to me and because it&#8217;s how I feel the God power inside of me, I&#8217;m going to use it today as I talk.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><em>Brightly beams our loving mercy</em></p><p><em>From our lighthouse evermore</em></p><p><em>But to one, we&#8217;re always keeping</em></p><p><em>Up the lights along the shore.</em></p><p><em>Let the lower lights be burning</em></p><p><em>Send a gleam across the wave</em></p><p><em>Some poor fainting, struggling human</em></p><p><em>You may rescue, you may save.</em></p></div><p>Bryan Stevenson, author of &#8220;Just Mercy&#8221; states that, &#8220;Mercy is not earned. Mercy is not passive. Mercy is necessary. Mercy begins with recognizing a shared humanity with every human on the earth.&#8221; That is the difficult part, isn&#8217;t it?</p><p>But mercy is only mercy without judgment attached to it in any way. As Bryan Stevenson says, &#8220;Each of us is more than the worst thing we&#8217;ve ever done.&#8221; Let mercy guide us as we strive to be with our fellow humans in &#8220;our one wild and precious life.&#8221;</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><em>Amazing grace how sweet the sound</em></p><p><em>That saved a wretch like me.</em></p><p><em>I once was lost, but now am found</em></p><p><em>Was blind but now I see.</em></p><p><em>Through many dangers, toils, and snares,</em></p><p><em>I have already come:</em></p><p><em>&#8216;Tis grace hath bought me safe thus far,</em></p><p><em>And grace will lead me home.</em></p></div><p>I think we often misunderstand grace. Some might not even really believe that grace has the power to heal, the power to save. Grace is so powerful. Grace is an amazing gift from our God Parents that to me says, &#8220;We love you. We know this is complicated. We trust your path.&#8221; Like the song says, Grace is amazing. It covers our self-inflicted pain, when others hurt us, when we are burdened, and when our patterns of behavior harm others. Grace will lead us to a place where we can find ourselves, settle into presence, and breathe knowing we can keep moving forward. Grace tells us we are enough.</p><p>I could sing a thousand songs about love, but instead, I used my voice to write a poem&#8230;</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Love heals</p><p>Maybe bigger than God Parents</p><p>Maybe from before them</p><p>The healing began</p><p>We must do the same</p><p>The healing</p><p>The loving</p></div><p>In Jesus&#8217; own words: &#8220;Love the Lord, your God, with all your heart&#8230; AND Love your neighbor as yourself.&#8221; </p><p>This scripture really has three parts. The first is to love our God Parents&#8212;they don&#8217;t require our love to be ok&#8212;they don&#8217;t NEED us to do that. This makes it so much easier to practice love by loving them and it&#8217;s such a gift. Figure it out on us, they said&#8212;we can take the messiness and the complicated parts. We won&#8217;t be hurt by any love you can or can&#8217;t show. Try on love. Give love. Practice love. In my mind, the practice of this love is to teach us how to do the next part of the commandment&#8212;love your neighbor.</p><p>Honestly, we aren&#8217;t really doing this well as a whole of society. We just aren&#8217;t. I think it&#8217;s because we truly fail to SEE our neighbor. But if we, as members of this church, believe our own stuff, it shouldn&#8217;t be that tricky. It&#8217;s pretty clear, &#8220;ALL are alike unto God&#8212;black and white, bond and free, male and female; Jew and Gentile.&#8221; There is nothing I can say here today that can persuade you to look at that scripture, &#8220;ALL are alike unto God,&#8221; add the &#8220;love your neighbor&#8221; part, and simply&#8212;do better. Love for your neighbor, whomever that may be, has to come from YOUR soul, YOUR heart.</p><p>The third part is &#8220;as yourself.&#8221; We never talk about this part. We skip over it as though it&#8217;s not a vital part of the commandment. WHY? You matter to our God Parents. You need to matter to yourself. I have myself as part of the 5 blocks of my spiritual tower. How can we really build the types of relationships we need here on earth without first recognizing the importance of ourselves? I choose to love myself as messy, complicated, doubtful, uncertain, worthy, and enough. I believe it might be too difficult to love your God Parents and your neighbors if you don&#8217;t love yourself first.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><em>I heard the voice of Jesus say</em></p><p><em>&#8220;Come unto Me and rest.</em></p><p><em>Lay down, my weary one, lay down</em></p><p><em>Your head upon my breast.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>I came to Jesus as I was,</em></p><p><em>So weary, worn, and sad.</em></p><p><em>I found in Him a resting place,</em></p><p><em>And he has made me glad.</em></p></div><p>I just don&#8217;t think Jesus asks us to hustle for our worth or hustle for love. &#8220;Come unto me. Learn of me. Rest in me,&#8221; He said. That&#8217;s His request&#8212;without hustle. He also doesn&#8217;t require perfection of any sort, nor is there a demand to be happy. Weary, worn, and sad, it says&#8212;Jesus wants us that way too. It&#8217;s enough for Him.</p><p>Here are a couple of questions to ponder: Does your spiritual tower have enough blocks? What might be missing? Does your tower have too many blocks? Are there blocks that don&#8217;t really belong to you&#8212;that might have been borrowed from your childhood or a parent? What if you gave yourself permission to use your full agency and truly listen to your heart&#8212;could you remove a block or two that was no longer part of your belief system or might actually be harming you? If you looked at faith as flexible and at certainty as not necessary, could you move a few of the blocks around, rename a few, and rebuild a foundation that felt more sure and sturdy for you?</p><p>I believe that building your spiritual tower is not something that is ever a finished product. We don&#8217;t have that kind of control over our lives. And honestly, the gift of agency tells us that we will have the privilege of continuing to shift, change, and grow for eternity. Of course we will. Plants adapt to the weather. Animals rebuild homes in new habitats. Adult development in physical, psychological, and faith-based ways have stages that we will continue to move through for the rest of our lives. Change is natural. Growth is good.</p><p>I choose the block of mercy because mercy is how to truly see others. I choose to believe wholeheartedly in a grace that tells me I am enough. I choose love, because love is the answer. In love&#8212;I choose myself because I matter most. The block of Jesus is my example of how I actually do mercy, grace, and love in &#8220;my one wild and precious life.&#8221;**</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nxY3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3d565e-44a6-451b-831f-e5367c0c772f_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>**Editor&#8217;s note: Mary introduced us to her concept of a spiritual block tower in <strong><a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/embracing-your-journey-a-conversation-097?utm_source=publication-search">ALSSI Ep. 180</a></strong>, and those insightful words found their way into our permanent lexicon. If you missed this conversation, here&#8217;s a reminder to check it out. Thanks again, Mary! &#8212;S.</em></p><div><hr></div><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!47yC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd67142cc-8550-4827-9bd7-8f66187106b8_7984x5984.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!47yC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd67142cc-8550-4827-9bd7-8f66187106b8_7984x5984.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!47yC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd67142cc-8550-4827-9bd7-8f66187106b8_7984x5984.jpeg 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">a photograph taken by the author of the Wadi Rum Desert, Jordan</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Finding The Divine Outdoors in Nature</h2><p><strong>by Maddie Victoria</strong></p><h4>I had an experience on a trip to the Middle East</h4><p>a few years ago. I often revisit that experience as I go through my faith journey and deconstruction. My experience is as follows.</p><p>I was in the Wadi Rum Desert in the country of Jordan with the warmth of the sun beating down on me, riding a camel as I was looking around and taking in the beauty of red sand and red peaks and cliffs that arose up around me. I felt that the same being that created these red rock cliffs, peaks and red sand is the same being that made me and took the time to provide me a world that I can explore and learn and grow in, and thrive in as the woman that I am. Even if it took me 20+ years to find myself as a woman. I learned that every experience, thought and question I have had shown me that I am enough and that I am worth it even if the world around me doesn&#8217;t think I am worth it because of who I am and the past life that I have lived.</p><p>Knowing that being in nature and outside is my sanctuary where I can commune with my Heavenly Mother and Heavenly Father is so healing to me. I see my Heavenly Parents more outside and in nature than I do in a brick-and-mortar building.</p><p>Nature and being outdoors ground me and connect me to the earth and the love that I have experienced time and time again as I open myself up to seek answers and guidance from my Heavenly Parents. They are patient with me when I don&#8217;t get it the first, second, third time, or however many times it takes me to realize what They are trying to tell me or show me. Sometimes all I need to do is look up and notice the beautiful world that is around me. Sometimes it is as simple as seeing the Northern Lights with my own eyes in the middle of the Salt Lake Valley.</p><p>Proverbs 3:5-6 is a verse of scripture that I hold near and dear to my heart:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>5 &#8220;Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;&#8221;<br>6 &#8220;In all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.&#8221; (NIV)</p></div><p>I am more at peace with where I am as a person, and with my faith. I feel like my deconstruction from the Church will be an ongoing process since it is intertwined with me because of where I live in the world and that I was an all-in member for so long. It isn&#8217;t easy being a member of the church who is in a marginalized community. 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We had to go to Primary Children&#8217;s<em> </em>hospital right away. My life turned upside down in an instant. My upcoming math test and band concert didn&#8217;t matter anymore. Now my only goal was to survive.</p><p>I was thrown into a world of procedures, pills, and waiting rooms. Chemotherapy was effective, but at a high cost. It took three years of my life and gave me a bone condition that made my ankle joints collapse. The year after I finished treatment I had four reparative ankle surgeries.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg" width="350" height="442.3076923076923" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1840,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:350,&quot;bytes&quot;:2230728,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTiJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5452e28-d956-40f4-86e8-a31fb80dc2cb_2718x3434.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;Chemo Couch&#8221; painted by the author at age 13</figcaption></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m 17 now and cancer free!! The effects of the chemo are long term, so I use a wheelchair when I&#8217;m out and about to minimize my chronic pain. I&#8217;m really happy with where I&#8217;m at now! I&#8217;m able to devote more energy to my art and spend more time with my loved ones, which has been a huge blessing. Over the years, I&#8217;ve turned to art again and again to find peace and healing from my struggles.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg" width="350" height="350" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1456,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:350,&quot;bytes&quot;:1763193,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CxZO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded63a49-c7e8-4380-8c56-12777411dd2e_2285x2285.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>One of my spiritual gifts is visualization. In some of the darkest times in my life, comforting spiritual images came into my mind: me leaning on Christ to walk; Jesus washing my swollen scarred feet with His scarred hands. I treasured these revelations because they felt so personal and tailored to me. It was one of my favorite ways to &#8220;Hear Him.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg" width="350" height="466.58653846153845" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/abf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1941,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:350,&quot;bytes&quot;:4141527,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-TI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf1dba6-57b5-480f-9322-c4ded00b1de8_4080x3060.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It wasn&#8217;t until this year that I understood them, however. I had just experienced some traumatic religious experiences and deep spiritual manipulation. The pain was excruciating and all consuming. I had numbed my spiritual intuition to &#8220;keep the peace&#8221; and I didn&#8217;t know how to get it back. I felt powerless and forgotten.</p><p>Then, I listened to a podcast episode about the Divine Feminine (by the In Her Image podcast, I highly recommend it). It changed my life. The world opened up to me and I finally felt free. Embracing Heavenly Mother helped me reclaim my agency. The day after I learned about Her, I started having beautiful images come to my mind multiple times a day, and they were all depicting Heavenly Mother. I realized that they weren&#8217;t how I &#8220;Hear Him&#8221; but actually how I &#8220;Hear <em>Her</em>.&#8221; I was so touched that even before I knew who She was, She was reaching out and comforting me. Now that I was aware of Her presence, I felt like She was calling me to create&#8212;so, I did.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4P4M!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9979fde-7a8e-4784-90bd-040ebb6b40a5_3060x3060.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4P4M!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9979fde-7a8e-4784-90bd-040ebb6b40a5_3060x3060.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4P4M!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9979fde-7a8e-4784-90bd-040ebb6b40a5_3060x3060.jpeg 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">"Adoring Our Eternal Mother" This was the first sketch of the Divine Feminine</figcaption></figure></div><p>It changed my life and how I worship. Art helped me to heal the deep spiritual wounds inflicted upon me. I drew Heavenly Mother&#8217;s comfort and support, and depicted Her in a variety of ways so that everyone could see themselves in Her. I try to push past beauty standards by showing the glory and divinity of an unfiltered body. Through this journey, I felt more of Her love and influence in my life. As I grow into a more independent phase of my life, I look forward to depicting that She is more than just someone to take care of children for eternity. She is a <em>goddess.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg" width="350" height="350" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1456,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:350,&quot;bytes&quot;:2682695,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NPNV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96babf98-eb6d-4297-a8bb-8f9e04ccab1c_3060x3060.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">"Mourning Glory"</figcaption></figure></div><p>Our Heavenly Parents are the ultimate creators. If we are truly to become like Them, then we must also learn to create. Parenthood is a beautiful way the gospel celebrates creation, but it can be so much broader than that. For those who aren&#8217;t in a parenting stage of their lives and for those who never will be, creation is still an option for them. I personally lean into this through painting, sketching, and singing, but there is no &#8220;right&#8221; way to be creative. You could garden, you could host events, you could write, you could fix cars, you could bake, you could sew, you could <em>serve</em>, you could <em>connect</em>, you could <em>heal</em>. Creativity is accessible to everyone. It is <em>literally</em> in our DNA.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg" width="350" height="350" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1456,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:350,&quot;bytes&quot;:2878213,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B2q5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6039eb97-bdbd-4cc1-92d0-952051a376c3_3006x3006.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">"Daily Delight"</figcaption></figure></div><p>I believe that all of those examples could bring someone closer to God. Intentionality in creation is what makes it a spiritual process, not the finished product. I incorporate this into my art practice through ritual.  Every time I sit down to draw or paint something, I say a prayer that They will guide my hands. Then I put on my favorite lotion and my playlist of songs that remind me of the Divine Feminine. This has turned art-making into my favorite form of worship. Even the interests that we view as secular can be expanded and magnified if we invite God in.</p><p>I think that agency is a concept more similar to creativity than we realize. If we truly believe that our agency increases as we become more like our Heavenly Parents, then it has to be more than just choosing between the covenant path and the adversary. Creativity has been my favorite way to expand my agency. I get to make decisions that shape how my art comes into the world. It is incredibly empowering and has deepened confidence in myself and God.</p><p>Creativity is a beautiful form of expression, release, and growth. I know it can be intimidating at first, but I invite you to try out some form of spiritual creativity and just see how it goes. The quality of the finished product doesn&#8217;t matter nearly as much as how you feel making it. You could start out with coloring in a coloring book and your experience can be just as profound.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RQP9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F232e624a-cda3-4990-8be6-35f56f09dd18_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RQP9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F232e624a-cda3-4990-8be6-35f56f09dd18_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RQP9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F232e624a-cda3-4990-8be6-35f56f09dd18_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>The Powerful Influence of My Heavenly Mother</h2><p><strong>by Stephanie Snell Povey</strong></p><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;adb45e44-ef0e-4a1d-9a33-184af314d7e0&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:480.39185,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><div class="pullquote"><p><em>&#8220;All men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother and are literally the sons and daughters of deity.&#8221;</em> &#8212;Joseph F. Smith 1909</p></div><h4>One evening in the fall of 1996, I returned home</h4><p>from the hospital having had another dilation and curettage (D&amp;C) after losing my third baby in five years. Bravely I tried to resign myself to be happy and content with the two beautiful daughters my husband and I had been blessed with. Yet, I felt a constant sense there was one more child for us. Many doubts and negative thoughts ran through my mind during this period of time.</p><p>&#8220;I must not understand how to receive inspiration from God.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;The spirit of my unborn child must not want to come to our family.&#8221;</p><p>And the most destructive of all, </p><p>&#8220;God is withholding this blessing because He doesn&#8217;t trust me with any more children!&#8221;</p><p>One particularly discouraging day after reading a conference talk about how Heavenly Father knows every burden and trial we will have to endure, I found myself saying right out loud, <em>&#8220;How can Heavenly Father really understand what I&#8217;m going through? He is a man and has never gone through this!&#8221; </em>My sharpness shocked me! Did those blasphemous words really come out of my mouth? I felt guilty about my thoughts and unworthy to pray.</p><p>A few days later a friend and her husband came to see me and bring a meal. We visited for a while, then as they prepared to leave, they asked if I would like a blessing?</p><p>I don&#8217;t recall everything that was said in that blessing, but a powerful promise was given that changed my life. <em>&#8220;Rest assured your Heavenly Parents are aware of you and your Heavenly Mother understands what you are going through.&#8221; </em>Immediately I knew this was exactly what I needed to hear, and the spirit witnessed to me, <em>&#8220;I have a Heavenly Mother and I am created in Her image. She understands everything I will ever go through!&#8221;</em></p><p>The veil thinned that day and my mind expanded. &#8220;Could it be,&#8221; I pondered, &#8220;that throughout the course of my many life experiences&#8212;as a confused nine year old girl, a discouraged teenage young woman, a homesick sister missionary, and a sometimes overwhelmed wife and mother&#8212;that the strength, inspiration and comfort came from both of my Heavenly Parents?&#8221;</p><p>The answer is YES!</p><p>The fact that we do not pray to Mother in Heaven in no way discredits Her position. Just as adoring and appreciating Her is in no way diminishing the love and appreciation I feel for my Father in Heaven.</p><p>As I have studied and prayed, I can only conclude that God consists of an exalted man and an exalted woman.</p><div class="pullquote"><p style="text-align: center;"><em>&#8220;If I believe anything that God has ever said about Himself then I must believe that deity consists of man and woman.&#8221;<br></em>&#8212;Elder Erastus Snow</p><p style="text-align: center;"><em>&#8220;We, the human family are literally the sons and daughters of Divine Parents, the literal progeny of God our Eternal Father, and of God our Eternal Mother.&#8221;</em><br>&#8212;Elder James E. Talmage</p></div><p>We have learned things about God our Eternal Mother, but there is still so much to know.</p><p>Questions such as:</p><ul><li><p>Why don&#8217;t we hear more about Mother in Heaven from our current leaders?</p></li><li><p>Am I alone in my yearning for more understanding of the Divine Feminine?</p></li></ul><p>President Russell M. Nelson has stated that the restoration has only begun and that it is our responsibility to receive revelation and guidance for our lives. This leads me to believe that as we long to know more of our glorious Mother in Heaven, ancient knowledge will be returned and restored to us.</p><p>Great peace comes to me when I pray daily, always addressing God the Father, yet visualizing both of my Heavenly Parents listening to me as I kneel before Them and pour out my heart. These are among the most insightful conversations imaginable.</p><p>I must not let feelings of doubt, inferiority or inequality discourage me. Great hope and encouragement come when I remember who I am and where I came from. Heavenly Mother is a goddess and a priestess. She is a perfect, glorified being and I am Her apprentice. My greatest aspiration is to become like Her someday.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8220;Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your Heavenly Mother in the royal courts on high and look into Her eyes and behold Her, any questions you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny.&#8221;<br>&#8212;Elder Glenn L. Pace</p></div><p>I was correct in sensing there was one more child to join our family. In 1999 in a miraculous way, I gave birth to our youngest daughter. My earthly parents were serving a mission in the Philippines at the time and were not able to be with me, but I felt the presence of my Heavenly Parents and especially my Mother in Heaven.</p><p>I know my Heavenly Mother lives. What comfort this knowledge gives.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzvW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc97dc8ce-d7c7-4786-839e-3f0cf5b16f77_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p><em>Say More: At Last She Writes It is thrilled to continue a series called, &#8220;Faith in Focus: ADHD and the Mormon Mind,&#8221; by Brittney Walker.</em></p><p style="text-align: center;"><em>This series explores how ADHD shapes the faith experience for women raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, from the early moralization of difference, to the exhaustion of trying to measure up, to the courage of rebuilding identity after leaving. Each essay stands alone but together they trace the arc from misunderstanding to self-understanding.</em></p><p style="text-align: center;"><em>The goal isn&#8217;t to critique the church, but to name what so many women feel but can&#8217;t articulate: that our struggles aren&#8217;t spiritual defects. They are neurological differences met with impossible expectations.</em></p><p style="text-align: center;"><em>The following essay, &#8220;Rebuilding with a Different Brain&#8221; is the fourth and final installment of the series. Many thanks to Brittney for her time and generosity in allowing ALSSI to publish this series</em></p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xjNM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf413780-a715-487c-874b-c1817813304d_5350x3567.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xjNM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf413780-a715-487c-874b-c1817813304d_5350x3567.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xjNM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf413780-a715-487c-874b-c1817813304d_5350x3567.jpeg 848w, 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I had started building a new life while the old life was still running in the background &#8230; fully operational, demanding everything it had always demanded. New job, new thinking, ideas I had been quietly circling for years. Coexisting with the old.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t notice it at first. I was too busy. New versions of myself I was tentatively trying on. The way you try on something in a dressing room and keep the tags on, just in case.</p><p>But underneath all of that, I was aiming for Perfect Mormon Mother. Perfect Wife. Supportive Friend. Still showing up to every obligation. Managing every expectation. Performing every role that had been assigned to me before I ever asked myself whether I wanted any of it. Nobody asked me to keep doing it. I just kept doing it. Dropping it would mean something. If I couldn&#8217;t do it all, there was a ready explanation waiting. I didn&#8217;t have the Spirit anymore. I was being led away. I had turned my back on God. The dropped ball. The exhaustion. The dinner I failed to make. Those would be the evidence.</p><p>So I didn&#8217;t drop anything.</p><p>I just ran faster.</p><p>Always out of breath. Always behind. Standing in front of a wall of arrows pointing in every direction at once. Knowing I needed to move but unable to choose because I needed to do all of them simultaneously. I performed my way through the days and collapsed at night. Performed. Collapsed. Performed. Collapsed.</p><p>It took me a long time to understand what was actually happening. Not a faith crisis. Not even an ADHD crisis.</p><p>A cognitive load crisis.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqFq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd1ce60-cc63-456c-9b4d-822f26444ce2_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here is something nobody tells you when you start loosening your grip on belief, whether you leave the church entirely or simply begin doing the quiet internal work of separating what&#8217;s yours from what was handed to you:</p><p>The structure was doing more work than you knew.</p><p>Not just the Wednesday night activities, or the Sunday schedule. Or the calling that filled your calendar and gave you a clear answer for what a good person does with her time. All of that, yes. But also something more fundamental. Something that was running so deep you couldn&#8217;t see it until it started to disappear.</p><p>The church was running your executive function.</p><p>The prefrontal cortex (PFC) handles those when the church doesn&#8217;t. Decisions. Direction. Identity. It answers the questions that feel small but aren&#8217;t: what do I do next, what matters here, who am I in this moment, what does a good life look like. Every human gets a limited amount of juice to their PFC each day. We spend it and then it&#8217;s gone, and the next day we start again.</p><p>Inside a high-demand religious system, enormous amounts of that work are already done for you before you wake up. Your identity is handed to you. Your schedule. Your values have been ranked. Your future is mapped out. The decisions that remain are small, because the architecture of your life has already been decided.</p><p>This isn&#8217;t a small thing. It&#8217;s an enormous cognitive gift, even when it comes wrapped in control.</p><p>When that system loosens, when you start questioning, leaving, or simply deciding to take what works and release what doesn&#8217;t, all of that outsourced cognitive work suddenly comes home. The decisions that were already made are now unmade. The schedule that had a shape has to be rebuilt from scratch.</p><p>And most of us have no idea that this transfer is happening.</p><p>We just know we&#8217;re exhausted. Frozen. Unable to move forward in ways that feel disproportionate to what&#8217;s actually in front of us. We stare at an ordinary decision and feel paralyzed. We have more freedom than we&#8217;ve ever had and less ability to use it than we expected.</p><p>We think something is wrong with us.</p><p>Nothing is wrong with us.</p><p>We are simply running a cognitive load we were never trained to carry. For the first time. Without warning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAy3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e22e019-92b9-4320-9851-3101fc144076_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>For those of us with ADHD, this hits harder.</p><p>ADHD is, at its core, an executive function condition. It affects initiation, prioritization, working memory, follow-through. All the systems that generate structure from the inside. The systems that build direction out of nothing. When you have ADHD and you also grew up inside a religious structure that was doing all of this work for you, you probably made it to adulthood without ever fully developing those muscles. The external structure compensated. You showed up. You performed. You even thrived. Because the scaffolding was already there.</p><p>And then the scaffolding was gone.</p><p>This is the part that goes unnamed in almost every conversation about leaving. The grief, yes. People talk about the grief. The community, the future you thought you were building. That loss is real and it deserves the space it takes up. But underneath it, quieter and more confusing, is this:</p><p>You&#8217;re the one running it now. You&#8217;ve never done it before.</p><p>And you don&#8217;t know how yet.</p><p>That&#8217;s not failure. It&#8217;s not evidence that leaving was wrong, or that you should go back. It&#8217;s a skills gap. A structural one. It has a name and it has a solution and it is not a reflection of your character or your potential.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e8h7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9d3569-c3f9-45b6-a7d2-0662021fed99_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The scaffolding can be rebuilt.</p><p>Not the old scaffolding. Not the borrowed structure that belonged to a system. The version of yourself you were handed before you knew you got a choice.</p><p>New scaffolding. Built around you.</p><p>When I started learning about this, really learning, not just trying harder, I understood for the first time why every productivity system I had ever tried eventually fell apart. The Franklin Covey binder. The hour-by-hour planner. The Notion dashboard I built with color-coded categories and sub-pages and a view for everything. I would set them up with enormous relief, that feeling of finally having it together, and then stop using them within two weeks (*ahem,* hours).</p><p>I thought the problem was discipline. It wasn&#8217;t.</p><p>The problem was that those systems were designed for a different nervous system. They assumed consistent energy. Linear motivation. The ability to hold a routine steady across days that don&#8217;t feel the same. Bodies that don&#8217;t feel the same. Circumstances that shift.</p><p>My brain doesn&#8217;t work that way. Maybe yours doesn&#8217;t either.</p><p>What actually works, what I have watched work in my own life and in the lives of people I work with, is scaffolding that starts with the body instead of the calendar. Small structures. Sensory cues. Short time containers that reduce ambiguity without requiring endurance. Environmental reminders instead of memory. Relational support instead of isolation and willpower.</p><p>The specifics matter less than the principle. Scaffolding is external support that carries cognitive load so your brain doesn&#8217;t have to. And this time, unlike the last time, you get to decide what it looks like.</p><p>You get to build it around the brain you actually have. The actual, specific brain that&#8217;s in your head. Not the one someone else says you should have.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/198285953?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_GP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01f43918-03c0-4ec8-a03e-de98ca0ffd98_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There will be grief in this process. Sometimes people expect the practical part to feel purely practical, and then the grief shows up and it&#8217;s disorienting.</p><p>You are allowed to grieve the community. The version of yourself who knew who she was without having to figure it out. You are allowed to grieve the simplicity. Even when the simplicity was coercive. Both things are true simultaneously, the harm and the loss, and you don&#8217;t have to choose which one to feel.</p><p>But grief is not the end of the story.</p><p>After the grief, there is something most people didn&#8217;t expect: a life that actually fits. Relationships that don&#8217;t require you to be smaller. Time that belongs to you. A structure built around your actual values and your actual brain. Not inherited. Not imposed. Not conditional on whether you show up correctly.</p><p>That&#8217;s not nothing.</p><p>For a lot of us, it&#8217;s the first time.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bQU3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e84a65b-2fc9-4343-a108-520224cf5763_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bQU3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e84a65b-2fc9-4343-a108-520224cf5763_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bQU3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e84a65b-2fc9-4343-a108-520224cf5763_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><h3>Contributors:</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg" width="350" height="395.52549427679503" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2e6J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa5f3df4-ec4e-491c-ac32-b6cefb6260c3_961x1086.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Mary Cox </h4><p>I wear so many hats! My favorite one is the Mary Hat where I get to spend my time relearning about my Self without the lens of systemic expectation and obligation warping my view. I am a musician. I love that my music can be a bridge builder between human souls. I am the mother of four queer children whom I wholly love and I have learned so much from them. I just completed a Bachelor degree in Behavioral Health Sciences at 56, and I am so proud of myself. I live in Mesa, AZ with my amazing husband who is learning and shifting alongside me.</p><div><hr></div><h4>Amy Call </h4><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg" width="296" height="370" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m8LA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a84f1d-8b26-435b-9453-4ee58e91b679_3024x3780.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Maddie Victoria </h4><p>I am an amateur wildlife photographer and I love outdoor activities.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3cc4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06d5ff3a-320a-4c88-b5e4-3929b35f8306_2048x1365.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3cc4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06d5ff3a-320a-4c88-b5e4-3929b35f8306_2048x1365.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3cc4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06d5ff3a-320a-4c88-b5e4-3929b35f8306_2048x1365.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3cc4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06d5ff3a-320a-4c88-b5e4-3929b35f8306_2048x1365.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3cc4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06d5ff3a-320a-4c88-b5e4-3929b35f8306_2048x1365.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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My writing explores faith, identity, longing, and the pull to remain connected even while wrestling with difficult questions.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u3BO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7daec1a-4e1f-4a4f-a955-82e74da84f90_750x1122.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u3BO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7daec1a-4e1f-4a4f-a955-82e74da84f90_750x1122.jpeg 424w, 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My best friend and partner for 42 years is husband Reed. Together we have three incredible daughters that have taught us so many things and brought us great joy. I am a lover of many activities, mostly of the outdoor nature, that involve moving my body and enjoying the sun.</p><p>I am a retired educator and author of the book, &#8220;You Can&#8217;t Play, You&#8217;re a Girl.&#8221; A memoir of my younger years before the passing of Title IX in 1972.</p><p>Above all, I am trying my best to be a disciple of Jesus and an apprentice to Divine Parents whom I aspire to become like some day.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!avOC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1b16198-22e2-45e5-88e4-e84649bf62d5_2316x3088.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The second was reading <em><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/second-class-saints-9780197695715?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;">Second-Class Saints: Black Mormons and the Struggle for Racial Equality</a></em> by Matthew Harris. The entire <a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/priesthood-and-temple-restriction?lang=eng">priesthood and temple ban</a> on those with African ancestry is a horrific part of Mormonism. To read in such detail about the racist teachings and policies crafted by LDS church leaders was enlightening and saddening, such as Brigham Young saying that any man who mingles with the &#8216;seed of Cain&#8217; is &#8220;to come forward &amp; have his head cut off &amp; spill his Blood upon the ground&#8221;.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> Yikes!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UV4h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7eb5f29-dff9-471d-a42a-2efba2aa3bf8_945x1067.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>My DNA results from Ancestry.com</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>One of those shocking bits of history talked about at great length in the book is the &#8220;<a href="https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf">one-drop rule</a>.&#8221; The &#8220;one-drop rule&#8221; stipulated that any person with even a &#8216;drop&#8217; of African blood was considered &#8216;negro&#8217; and thus ineligible for priesthood ordination (if male) and temple rites (if female). I had known about the &#8216;one-drop rule&#8217; before reading the book, but reading all the awful details about it broke my heart in ways I hadn&#8217;t expected.</p><p>While knee-deep in <em>Second-Class Saints</em>, I was thrilled to get my DNA results. I texted my kids the above graphic and said, &#8220;Look at me, I am a product of humanity!&#8221; I was so proud to learn that I am 20% Indigenous Mexican. <em>(Thanks Mom!)</em> I was equally proud to learn I was 26% Celtic/Gaelic <em>(Thanks Dad!)</em> Smaller parts of my DNA showed me to also be Spanish, Portuguese, Jewish, and African&#8212;4% African to be exact.<em> </em><strong>Love it</strong>&#8230;<em>thanks Mom</em>!</p><div class="pullquote"><h4>Today, as I look at my DNA results and my family photos, I am struck by the irony that the very thing the prophets and apostles once feared&#8212;the &#8216;mingling of races&#8217;&#8212;is exactly what makes me, well, <em>me</em>.</h4></div><p>Knowing that I had &#8216;four drops&#8217; of African blood, I realized that my own parents&#8217; temple marriage was against Church policy as my parents were married in 1971, seven years before the priesthood and temple ban ended.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>My parents Ernestina Briones and Michael Harrington at their wedding reception, April 1971</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Harris writes:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;But there was another fundamental flaw with the one-drop rule&#8230;you couldn&#8217;t tell whether someone had African ancestry simply by looking at them. In the nineteenth century, when Brigham Young and other Mormon leaders defined a &#8220;negro&#8221; as anyone having one drop of African lineage, there were no reliable ways to identify bloodlines. DNA tracing through the Human Genome Project was decades in the future, which made determining lineage imprecise and often wrong. All of this is to say that the one-drop rule underscored a brutal reality that neither Mormon leaders nor Americans in general could grasp. The racial boundaries they sought to enforce were built on fiction.&#8221;</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p></blockquote><p>I had &#8216;four drops&#8217; because my mother had &#8216;eight drops.&#8217; Obviously my parents were married before DNA tests, but it left me wondering, would The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have scrapped the &#8216;one-drop rule&#8217; had DNA tests been a possibility? Or would they have leaned harder into the rule had science made it easier to discriminate? So many questions! </p><div class="pullquote"><h4> Obviously my parents were married before DNA tests, but it left me wondering, would The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have scrapped the &#8216;one-drop rule&#8217; had DNA tests been a possibility?</h4></div><p>At the time, some people (mainly in South Africa and Brazil) were required by the Church to trace their genealogy to prove they had no African ancestry. Or worse, some potential converts were assessed by a white missionary or other white church leader just by looking at them<em> to see how dark they were.</em> I have curly brown hair, brown eyes, and olive skin. But one of my sisters&#8212;sharing all the same DNA as my parents&#8212;has blonde hair, blue eyes, and light skin. I truly can&#8217;t imagine the humiliation of some white man staring at any of us to decide if we &#8216;pass&#8217; as white.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg" width="626" height="483.25824175824175" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1124,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:626,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TZ63!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04c82a79-016c-488f-93f9-5789457e2eae_1976x1526.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>My sister Patricia and me in 1977</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Harris documents loads of stories about LDS members discovering they had African ancestry, but who &#8216;passed&#8217; as white. Some looked like me, some like my sister. Sometimes church leaders looked the other way when they knew someone had African ancestry and sometimes they didn&#8217;t. Harris writes&#8211;</p><blockquote><p><em>Over the years,</em> [Church leaders]<em> fielded numerous queries from Latter-day Saints who looked White but were classified as Black by the church&#8230;.These sensitive cases always frustrated the Brethren because the individuals in question wanted to serve missions, marry in the temple, and hold the priesthood, but the church&#8217;s restrictive racial boundary made this difficult. The simplest answer was to get rid of the one-drop rule and cut through the bureaucratic gauze that prohibited full church participation. But the Brethren couldn&#8217;t see themselves changing decades of tradition. On at least three occasions in their council meetings the apostles discussed&#8212;and reaffirmed&#8212;that they would keep the one-drop rule.</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y7U6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1960f80c-d3c4-4ce5-a6f9-d4a782f1de22_987x1500.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y7U6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1960f80c-d3c4-4ce5-a6f9-d4a782f1de22_987x1500.jpeg 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><strong><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/197812337-second-class-saints?ac=1&amp;from_search=true&amp;qid=4rr1lDHRQ7&amp;rank=1">Second-Class Saints: Black Mormons and the Struggle for Racial Equality</a></strong></em><strong>, by Matthew L. Harris</strong></figcaption></figure></div><p>My mother and her family experienced plenty of racism as Mexican Latter-day Saints even though they were not required to prove their lineage upon baptism. In Mexico my family was specifically told by the missionaries that they were &#8216;Lamanite&#8217;, a group of people written about in the Book of Mormon, <a href="https://rsc.byu.edu/book-mormon-second-nephi-doctrinal-structure/lamanite-mark">but also a cursed people</a> according to scripture.</p><p>One of my mother&#8217;s sisters, Herlinda Briones Bowen, served a mission shortly after her baptism in the 1960s in western Mexico. She writes in her memoir about numerous racist experiences, things she overheard while working in the mission home in Hermosillo, Sonora. The mission president&#8217;s wife was having a conversation with a young male missionary who had finished his service and was going to be heading home to Arizona&#8212;</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;While I was sorting some papers, the missionary casually stands by the Mission President&#8217;s wife seated at her desk, engaging her in lighthearted conversation. This being the last day of his mission, all smiles and cheerful demeanor, she turns towards him inquiring about his plans after completing such an important milestone in his life. Without preamble, the missionary launches on his number one goal&#8230;he intends to marry Sister T., a recently released Mexican lady missionary!...My emotional radar in full alert by now, I managed to keep my eyes on my work; the discussion was none of my concern and the conversation being in English, further removed me from any involvement.</em> [Not everyone in the mission home knew Herlinda understood English].<em> Her smiling face and cheerful demeanor gone; the Mission President&#8217;s wife&#8217;s tone of voice changes accordingly in a mean-spirited lecture about the &#8220;disadvantages&#8221; of marrying a Mexican!&#8221; </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!irrC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4825e37-e442-46dc-8739-06beaa9f485a_1230x834.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">My mother (the far left curly-haired toddler) with her siblings &amp; parents in the mid 1940s in Los Mochis, Sinaloa, Mexico</figcaption></figure></div><p>The above encounter doesn&#8217;t even surprise me. I&#8217;ve heard and seen plenty of racism from Latter-day Saints towards Mexicans (and other Latinos) my entire life. In fact, I probably have witnessed more than my fair share because as a &#8216;white presenting&#8217; woman (with an English last name, first Harrington, now Winward) other white Latter-day Saints feel safe in expressing their racist thoughts to me. Never having been one to stay silent, I always call them out on their racist comments and then witness a lot of back-peddling.</p><p>One last story from my family. In the late 1970s my dad was a deputy sheriff for San Bernardino county in California. He had an opportunity to work for the sheriff&#8217;s office in Springville, Utah. Before uprooting our family, my dad had the wherewithal to ask his future employer what the racism was like towards Latinos in a small town. The man was honest with my father and told him the racism would be significant in Utah. My dad, not wanting to subject his wife, my mother, to much more racism than she already had to bear, turned down the job and raised our family in southern California.</p><p>I grew up in the safety of that choice, &#8216;passing&#8217; as white while the Church&#8217;s complicated racial past hummed quietly in my DNA. The history of racism&#8212;official and cultural&#8212;is a dark stain on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is a history that once relied on the fiction of racial purity to determine eternal blessings. Today, as I look at my DNA results and my family photos, I am struck by the irony that the very thing the prophets and apostles once feared&#8212;the &#8216;mingling of races&#8217;&#8212;is exactly what makes me, well, <em>me</em>.</p><p>The &#8216;bureaucratic gauze&#8217; may be gone, but the social scars for so many still remain. Whether on this side of 1978 or the other, my &#8216;four drops&#8217; of African blood never made me or my family second-class saints, but a beautiful product of humanity and a child of God.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y6QT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69bc2329-c919-4a10-8dcf-9eb2e5621293_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y6QT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69bc2329-c919-4a10-8dcf-9eb2e5621293_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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Harris, p. 5</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ibid, p. 8</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ibid, p. 38</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Under the Shade of the Tamarind Tree</em>, by Herlinda Briones Bowen, p. 257</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Say More: At Last She Writes It]]></title><description><![CDATA[No. 60 | April 2026]]></description><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-f04</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-f04</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 16:01:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uDNl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5151358-df11-4819-8fe5-02f32f20d042_3500x2333.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pullquote"><p>Last week, ALSSI released a <a href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/episode-258-cynthia-and-susans-ragecast">&#8220;Ragecast Potpourri&#8221;</a> episode covering a few recent headlines and explored some questions raised by recent changes. For fun, we challenged you all to share your best rage haiku with us. As always, we were BLOWN AWAY with the responses and just had to compile all the amazing poems in one place. This issue includes some of the haiku that were submitted on Facebook, Instagram and Substack. They have been grouped based on a loose theme to help fully absorb the impact of communal voices coming together to speak on one topic. </p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uDNl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5151358-df11-4819-8fe5-02f32f20d042_3500x2333.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uDNl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5151358-df11-4819-8fe5-02f32f20d042_3500x2333.jpeg 424w, 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answers to suff&#8217;ring<br>Not to find car keys<br><em><strong>_louise_e</strong></em></p><p>Do not blame Jesus,<br>Grasping tightly to dead things<br>And never growing<br><em><strong>kjkj6363</strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ym-h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff89d10f-e2aa-451b-87c3-5e07fb496f5b_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ym-h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff89d10f-e2aa-451b-87c3-5e07fb496f5b_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Haiku on Purity Culture</h2><p>&#8220;Modesty?&#8221; -humbug<br>avert your eyes if my thighs<br>offend your male gaze<br><em><strong>Kajsa Kaufusi</strong></em></p><p>Holy cloth clings tight<br>Texas sun turns faith to fire<br>I choose bare skin now<br><em><strong>Julia Baldwin</strong></em></p><p>Purity Culture<br>The seed of shame incarnate<br>Don&#8217;t yoke us with it.<br><em><strong>Pat Catherall</strong></em></p><p>They see us simply<br>Jezebels and Gilgolos<br>Unworthy of trust<br><em><strong>Lisa Fluckiger</strong></em></p><p>Storms rage in our hearts<br>One garment wedgie away<br>Mormon laundry sucks<br><em><strong>Heidi C.</strong></em></p><p>&#8220;Women are equal&#8221;<br>But men give us approval<br>On our worthiness<br><em><strong>Laynie.markisich</strong></em></p><p>You&#8217;d approach our girls<br>If a Prophet said to prey.<br>Blind trust is your God.<br><em><strong>Annika Evelyn</strong></em></p><p>Trans friends chaperoned<br>Sexual predators not<br>I&#8217;m out of here, Bye!<br><em><strong>Sarah Porter Otter</strong></em></p><p>Temple wedding day<br>Sorry you can&#8217;t come in<br>You did not comply<br><em><strong>Kyra Dunshee</strong></em></p><p>Purity, shame, guilt.<br>We cast our pearls before swine.<br>Not for God: for men.<br><em><strong>Hannah H</strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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Heresy.<br><em><strong>Kajsa Kaufusi</strong></em></p><p>I am told to not<br>Get ahead of the brethren<br>But they do not move<br><em><strong>Amy Sego Shumway</strong></em></p><p>Leaders LOVE women<br>But we must scream to be heard<br>Silenced is not loved<br><em><strong>Elizabeth Ludwig</strong></em></p><p>A sister speaks up<br>Shhhh! Stop. The men are speaking.<br>We love the sisters!<br><em><strong>Madwoman_c</strong></em></p><p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t understand&#8221;<br>They tell me when I speak up.<br>They don&#8217;t understand<br><em><strong>Elisabethbingham1</strong></em></p><p>Trapped in spirit pris&#8217;n<br>Stunted in a male domain.<br>No progression here.<br><em><strong>Mama_gale</strong></em></p><p>By their fruits ye shall<br>Know them. Why are so many<br>Fruits then so rotten?<br><em><strong>Eleanor Clark</strong></em></p><p>&#8220;Stay off the damn stand&#8221;<br>&#8220;Not on the front row, either&#8221;<br>&#8220;Go make me donuts!&#8221;<br><em><strong>Carol Colvin</strong></em></p><p>Dear Patriarchy,<br>We have a Heavenly Mother<br>and no women leaders?<br><em><strong>Nicci Cameron Lovell</strong></em></p><p>Truth should not fear light<br>Questions were never the sin<br>Silence was the cost<br><em><strong>Erica N.</strong></em></p><p>Old men lead the way.<br>What will we do without them?<br>Shout hallelujah!<br><em><strong>Pat Cathall</strong></em></p><p>Waiting and hoping<br>Maybe things are improving?<br>Then disappointment<br><em><strong>Whitney Webster Pack</strong></em></p><p>Teach what men preach.<br>Personal revelation?<br>Keep it to yourself<br><em><strong>Allison.deibel</strong></em></p><p>I am not enough<br>To pass bread to the people<br>But twelve year olds can<br><em><strong>Aerynnec</strong></em></p><p>I am the witness!<br>But then a man from the back<br>Does my job for me<br><em><strong>Ajsjonm4</strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RtEw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92e8c37c-c58c-4cd1-b8f7-dd17eb7e11a5_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RtEw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92e8c37c-c58c-4cd1-b8f7-dd17eb7e11a5_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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Oops.<br>I&#8217;m one, anyway.<br><em><strong>Kaylee.a.skinner</strong></em></p><p>Perimenopause<br>Meets ongoing faith crisis<br>No wonder they&#8217;re scared<br><em><strong>Jilleneladle</strong></em></p><p>I am not enough?<br>I throw away the men&#8217;s words.<br>I find I am strong.<br><em><strong>cristallharper</strong></em></p><p>They buried our names&#8212;<br>wild seeds under heavy stone.<br>Still we rose up green.<br><em><strong>Melanee Green Evans</strong></em></p><p>I bent till I broke<br>now I rise without your name<br>whole, and not afraid<br><em><strong>Kim G Bohne Landeen</strong></em></p><p>Please, tell me again<br>what I can and cannot do.<br>I know my power.<br><em><strong>Annisija Wallin Hunter</strong></em></p><p>You shudder at my<br>&#8220;wokeness&#8221;, yet holy words call:<br>Awake and arise<br><em><strong>Sarah Hale</strong></em></p><p>Women, we breathe life<br>Heart listeners-who lead<br>With healing and hope.<br><em><strong>Ananda Isaken</strong></em></p><p>Coercive marriage<br>Taught to absorb all the harm<br>Rage feels like freedom<br><em><strong>Unschmuck</strong></em></p><p>Please less &#8220;explaining&#8221;<br>Just don&#8217;t care much anymore<br>Your view from up here<br><em><strong>Christiehp</strong></em></p><p>Notice me I said<br>I did everything right here<br>I want to be seen<br><em><strong>Heathermimib</strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Emzl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c5f842-36e5-4368-80f9-308085997490_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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walked out in bloom.<br><em><strong>Becky Sanchez</strong></em></p><p>Foundation anew,<br>I choose my own bricks this time:<br>Spiritual freedom!<br><em><strong>Andrea Meecham Neahusan</strong></em></p><p>I must leave to love<br>The tender heart who receives<br>Careless musket fire<br><em><strong>Jenny Garrard</strong></em></p><p>I bent till I broke<br>now I rise without your name<br>whole, and not afraid<br><em><strong>Kim G Bohne Landeen</strong></em></p><p>Don&#8217;t rush connection<br>Covenant path instruction<br>Can not satisfy<br><em><strong>Brooke</strong></em></p><p>I asked honest things<br>They called it a slippery slope<br>Yep. Slid on out<br><em><strong>Erica N.</strong></em></p><p>We take our lives back<br>Joyful, adventurous, and<br>Our own to direct<br><em><strong>Lisa Fluckiger</strong></em></p><p>I see the forest<br>And the trees. I know<br>I am not alone<br><em><strong>Kcampbella</strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/194302538?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uB3H!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003d36a5-8d63-4902-867a-50dd32ea48a1_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><div class="pullquote"><p>Say More: At Last She Writes It is thrilled to continue a series called, &#8220;Faith in Focus: ADHD and the Mormon Mind,&#8221; by Brittney Walker.</p><p style="text-align: center;">This series explores how ADHD shapes the faith experience for women raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, from the early moralization of difference, to the exhaustion of trying to measure up, to the courage of rebuilding identity after leaving. Each essay stands alone but together they trace the arc from misunderstanding to self-understanding.</p><p style="text-align: center;">The goal isn&#8217;t to critique the church, but to name what so many women feel but can&#8217;t articulate: that our struggles aren&#8217;t spiritual defects. They are neurological differences met with impossible expectations.</p><p style="text-align: center;">The following essay, &#8220;When Faith Loses Focus: For every woman whose questions were treated as a spiritual problem&#8221; is the third of the series. The next of the installments will be included each month.</p><p style="text-align: center;"></p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!weAW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0da6f26-fde4-4d9e-b7c5-ae7ecc6a085e_5062x3375.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!weAW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0da6f26-fde4-4d9e-b7c5-ae7ecc6a085e_5062x3375.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!weAW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0da6f26-fde4-4d9e-b7c5-ae7ecc6a085e_5062x3375.jpeg 848w, 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time. And what I felt was peace. Clearly, unmistakably, the way I had been taught to recognize revelation. Not the complicated kind. The simple kind. My brother was right just as he was. He didn&#8217;t need fixing.</p><p>I stood up from that prayer believing something true.</p><p>And then my brain, the one that has never once in its life left a loose thread alone, started pulling.</p><p><strong>The thread you cannot stop pulling</strong></p><p>If my brother was right, and the feeling was real, then the disconnect was somewhere else.</p><p>So I went looking for it.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t choose to go looking. I want to be clear about that. The search wasn&#8217;t an act of rebellion or spiritual carelessness. It was compulsion. My brain identified a problem it could not resolve and it went to work on it the way it always had&#8212;relentlessly, around the clock, whether I invited it to or not.</p><p>In the middle of sacrament meeting. At 2 a.m. On the drive to pick up kids from school. The questions kept arriving.</p><p>If the feeling was right, was the teaching wrong? If the teaching was wrong, who taught it? If he taught it, was he&#8212;the prophet&#8212;wrong? And if he could be wrong about this, what else? And if that, then what about &#8230;</p><p>The dominoes fell all the way down.</p><p>To the prophet. Then further. Then to God.</p><p>And then there was nothing left to land on.</p><h4>What they called it</h4><p>There is a word the Church uses for what I was experiencing: doubt. Sometimes faithlessness. The cure prescribed is almost always the same: pray more, study more, serve more, trust more. Do not let your intellect get ahead of your faith. So I did.</p><p>What no one told me was that I have a brain with a specific, documented, neurological inability to leave a question unresolved.</p><p>I have ADHD. I also have scrupulosity, an anxiety pattern that hijacks the religious framework and turns it into an engine of obsessive moral accounting. My brain doesn&#8217;t just notice inconsistency. It cannot rest until inconsistency is resolved. It needs certainty the way other people need sleep.</p><p>Put that brain inside a faith system that asks you to hold unanswered questions peacefully, to sit with not-knowing, to &#8220;doubt your doubts,&#8221; and you don&#8217;t get a crisis of faith.</p><p>You get a machine that cannot stop running.</p><p>I wasn&#8217;t falling away from God. My brain was doing exactly what it was built to do. It was following the evidence. It was refusing to look away. It was doing, in the language of faith, what it had always done in every other area of my life: working the problem until it either resolved or broke open entirely.</p><p>That&#8217;s not weakness. That&#8217;s not wickedness.</p><p>That is an ADHD brain, functioning precisely as designed, inside a system that had no category for it.</p><h4>The year of falling</h4><p>What followed was a solid year of grief.</p><p>The only image I have ever found that fits is this: falling through space. A bottomless black hole. Nothing to grab onto. Nowhere to land.</p><p>I had built my identity inside this structure. My calendar, my community, my sense of what I was for&#8212;all of it organized around something that was coming apart faster than I could process. And the falling felt endless because there was no floor. Every answer I found opened into another question. Every certainty I tested failed.</p><p>I want to say something to the women who are in that falling right now, or who have been, or who are watching someone they love go through it:</p><p>The falling was not a punishment. It was not evidence that I had been faithless or careless or spiritually reckless.</p><p>It was what happens when a brain built for pattern recognition finally finds a pattern it cannot reconcile.</p><p>The grief was real. The loss was real. I am not going to tell you it wasn&#8217;t.</p><p>But the falling was not my fault.</p><h4>What the Church called sin</h4><p>Here is what I have come to understand, years out from that night:</p><p>Every trait that made my deconstruction feel so total, so unstoppable, so consuming&#8212;the relentless question-following, the inability to unknow something once I knew it, the need for coherence, the refusal to hold contradiction in peaceful suspension&#8212;those are not spiritual defects.</p><p>They are ADHD.</p><p>The same brain that got sent into the hall for asking too many questions in Primary. The same brain that couldn&#8217;t stop mentally arguing with myself over what was said in sacrament meeting. The same brain that needed the pieces to fit, always, desperately, at the cost of everything.</p><p>That brain didn&#8217;t destroy my faith.</p><p>It followed my faith all the way to the edges and kept going when the edges ran out.</p><p>There is a version of my story the Church would tell where I was deceived, or weak, or led astray, or just didn&#8217;t try hard enough. In that version, the problem was always me.</p><p>But here is the version I know to be true:</p><p>I went to my knees the night my brother came out to me. I sought God in the way I had been taught. I received an answer that felt true and real and certain. And then my brain&#8212;my beautiful, relentless, impossible, truth-seeking brain&#8212;refused to stop at the edge of what that answer meant.</p><p>That is not a failure of faith.</p><p>That is faith, taken seriously by a mind that could not do it any other way.</p><h4>What I wish someone had said</h4><p>Your questions were not a spiritual problem.</p><p>Your inability to sit with uncertainty was not a character flaw.</p><p>Your brain&#8217;s relentless need for coherence was not the enemy of your faith.</p><p>It was just a mind doing what minds like ours do: following every thread, refusing to look away, insisting that the truth, whatever it turned out to be, was worth finding.</p><p>The Church didn&#8217;t have a category for that kind of mind.</p><p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean the mind was wrong.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Contributor</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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I spent many years trying to be reverent, organized, and less distracting, and now I write about executive function, faith, deconstruction, and rebuilding identity with a different kind of brain. My work explores neurodivergence, belonging, and the slow process of learning to trust yourself. You can find more of my writing at <a href="https://exmoadhdcoach.substack.com/">exmoadhdcoach.substack.com</a></p><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share At Last She Said It&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share At Last She Said It</span></a></p><p><em>Thanks for supporting Say More </em>and <em>ALSSI. Have something to say? 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" 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Despite this being the reddest of small towns, there were hundreds of us&#8212;5x as many people as I expected. The crowd was anchored by a few full-size US flags, confidently riding the morning wind. Those flags understood the assignment; something in me quickened as I parked. A small marching band trumpeted hope up and down the sidewalk.</p><p>Environmentalist Bill McKibben was once asked, "What's the best thing I can do as an individual?" He said, "Stop being an individual.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> I showed up needing to feel less alone, and got all the right medicine. Most of the passing drivers honked, waved, and gave us a thumbs-up.</p><p>Of course there were a few whose sneers and gestures made clear their contempt. As I stood fighting to keep my poster upright in the wind, a red car approached and slowed to a stop in front of me. The window slid down. A woman leaned out, looked right at me and said, &#8220;You know, he is YOUR president. He is the president of every single one of you.&#8221; She drove away.</p><p>As if that should end the protest. As if anyone could so smugly close the lid on hope.</p><p>I haven&#8217;t stopped thinking about the woman in the red car, and about all the things I didn&#8217;t say in response.</p><p>There are a few lessons I&#8217;ve always thought God made particularly obvious. Diversity is one&#8212;look around&#8212;and creativity is another. A third I see writ large in the natural world is hope. Morning was the first advertisement for this concept, but because it comes every day we tend to stop noticing. Maybe God knew we&#8217;d have a hard time paying attention to a thing that happened so often. Maybe that&#8217;s why they also came up with spring.</p><p>Of course God put winter first to really get our attention&#8212;to bring us right to the edge of giving up&#8212;before adding spring to the calendar. In ink. Not often enough that we&#8217;d quit noticing either, surprised by joy every time a weeping cherry drapes itself sky-to-ground in pink ribbons.</p><p>The thing about spring is, it always comes. It doesn&#8217;t matter how hard the winter is, or how evil the king. It doesn&#8217;t matter if there&#8217;s a huge snowstorm in April that pushes us to the brink of really not being okay. Spring prevails every time.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VI7F!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76064ead-dc69-40fb-8109-9ba7c1a8be60_1561x946.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VI7F!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76064ead-dc69-40fb-8109-9ba7c1a8be60_1561x946.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VI7F!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76064ead-dc69-40fb-8109-9ba7c1a8be60_1561x946.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">No matter where I live, I&#8217;ll never not be amazed by spring</figcaption></figure></div><p>American theologian Walter Brueggemann said, &#8220;Hope arises from memory.&#8221;</p><p>Rebecca Solnit explains, &#8220;You can turn that inside out to say that despair arises from forgetting. If you forget that every good thing we have came about as the result of a heroic struggle, of course you will despair.&#8221; She says that optimism and pessimism &#8220;assume we know the future, and therefore nothing is required from us. I think the future is radically uncertain, and therefore much is required of us.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>But is hope too much to expect in the face of radical uncertainty?</p><p>Well, what else is there? Gripping everything tighter isn&#8217;t going to give us any guarantees, but engaging with hope means we&#8217;re showing up for the future no matter what heroic struggle it brings, because there is no way to get where we want to go next except through whatever is happening now.</p><p>I remember exactly where I was sitting in an AP English classroom about 100 years ago when the teacher ridiculed a student for using the word anxious when they actually meant eager, and I realized for the first time with a spark that those words aren&#8217;t interchangeable. No matter how often they get swapped in casual speech, <em>eager</em> is about positive anticipation and <em>anxious</em> is about worry. As that came into focus for me, the very next second I thought, &#8220;Pretty sure Joseph Smith made a mistake.&#8221; In D&amp;C 58, being &#8220;anxiously engaged in a good cause&#8221; was surely meant to be about eagerness to do good. I don&#8217;t think he meant to suggest we should feel nervous about the uncertainty of our actions or outcomes while we engage in that goodness.</p><p>But I&#8217;ve been anxiously engaged my whole life as a Latter-day Saint. I took the words to heart just the way Joseph wrote them.</p><p>I&#8217;m not sure exactly how this worked, but all that anxious engagement over many decades seems to have resulted in some serious hope muscle. As I enter my later years, I find my core is all made of hope. Maybe it came from so many years showing up and doing all the church things while thinking, &#8220;I&#8217;m really not very good at this. I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m doing it right. I have no idea whether it will be enough.&#8221; Maybe when you feel a little doomed from the start, but you press on anyway, you get in the habit of grasping anything you can find that might make up the difference. You hope.</p><p>And I don&#8217;t mean <em>feeling</em> hopeful. I don&#8217;t mean a grin that comes back no matter how often reality turns its power-washer on you. I mean hope as a verb. As a thing you decide to do. As a perspective you have, because <em>you </em>bring it. Hope is not something that arises spontaneously and promises to work everything out. Anxious or eager, the work is the same. But I&#8217;ve come to prefer eager: Hope is a way I can choose to engage.</p><p>I wish I&#8217;d known I didn&#8217;t need to feel so worried all those years. I wish I could go back and tell my young self, &#8220;See those flowers? They probably aren&#8217;t worried at all&#8212;yes, winter knocks &#8216;em out, in fact, it straight-up kills some. But there&#8217;s always spring, and flowers don&#8217;t have to earn it&#8212;all they have to do is wait for it.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Consider the lilies,&#8221; Jesus said. &#8220;They seem to remember something you don&#8217;t.&#8221;</p><p>Flipping from anxious to eager in my spiritual life has mostly been a function of embracing my own hope. &#8220;God is always present in reality as it is. Not as it should be,&#8221; says Richard Rohr.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> I think this is one of the reasons Jesus showed up on earth, getting everyone&#8217;s hopes up, but then surprised even the people closest to him by becoming victorious only after an unimaginable defeat. It was a lesson so bewildering, even people who desperately wanted the miracle had a hard time accepting the truth of what they were seeing in real time. How could something so awful be the doorway to lasting hope?</p><p>Thomas had his doubts; unfortunately he&#8217;s remembered for them. But do you know what he did next? He took Christianity to India and beyond, converting many to the very idea he had such a hard time getting his head around. He may have needed to touch for himself, but that experience powered a lifetime of ministry. It&#8217;s fair to say reality transmuted the moment of doubt into something truly sustaining.</p><div class="pullquote"><h4>The practice of hope must be a principle through which God thought humans could remind ourselves of divine love no matter what else is going on<em>.</em></h4></div><p>But God&#8217;s love was in the world before Jesus ever got here. &#8220;It is good, in fact, it is <em>very</em> good,&#8221; God says, the punchline of the whole opening monologue. A few minutes later, we find out &#8220;good<em>&#8221;</em> may be more complicated than we thought&#8212;no one was going to be allowed to stick around, basking in the very-good-ness of a garden. I think everything God says and does after that is trying to teach us about hope&#8212;even in the face of the bleakest reality&#8212;and I can see why the best object lesson to do that would probably be our own screw ups.</p><p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve met the enemy, and he is us,&#8221; says the famous Walt Kelly comic strip.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> The practice of hope must be a principle through which God thought humans could remind ourselves of divine love no matter what else is going on<em>. </em><br><br>I&#8217;ve decided another idea articulated by Richard Rohr could be repurposed into a good definition of hope: &#8220;the ability to flourish inside of paradox.&#8221; We know what has happened, and we know what&#8217;s happening now, but I don&#8217;t think we can be at all certain what it means in real time, and we never know what&#8217;s going to happen next, even when we think we do. We can be sure it will be bad and good and then bad again and then sometimes better, but there&#8217;s no guarantee. A yes for every no, and a no for each yes. Life will be loss and abundance, joy and sorrow tossed together. &#8220;Reality&#8217;s conjunction is always <em>and,</em>&#8221; writes Christian Wiman.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>That&#8217;s where I think hope lives. Hope is in the <em><strong>and</strong></em>.</p><p>So what do we do when we&#8217;re really not feeling it? Hope, faith, and love show up together in the Bible. Sharon Salzberg teaches<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> that the word translated there as faith is actually a verb&#8212;it&#8217;s not a thing we have so much as a thing we do. Hope and love already operate as verbs in modern English; moving faith into the verb column makes sense, if these foundational principles walk hand in hand. A quote from Rabbi Abraham Heschel says, &#8220;Faith is mostly faithfulness to the times when we had faith.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> I understand this as, &#8220;Faith is a thing we keep doing because we once felt it.&#8221;</p><p>Anyone who&#8217;s been in a long term relationship knows love operates the same way. We fall in love with someone, then we keep loving them on the days it&#8217;s hard to do so, because love is no longer a feeling so much as an action.</p><p>The emotion of hope is also less useful than the action. When hope-the-noun becomes hope-the-verb, we go to the protest whether or not we think it will change anything. We&#8217;re eagerly engaged, smack in the middle of not knowing. We follow hope instinctively because it&#8217;s all there is to do in the face of such radical uncertainty. It&#8217;s the thing we can control.</p><p>The woman in the red car&#8212;and everyone else who flipped us off that day&#8212;thought she could impact my hope by insisting the situation was hopeless. She (and all the efforts I&#8217;ve seen since to minimize that hopeful act or dismiss it outright) is missing the point of hope. The only thing hope insists is that, eventually, things will change. That&#8217;s based in reality&#8212;a measure of calm certainty can reside in the uneasiness of it. Hope-seeds arrive buried in the same dirt we&#8217;re standing in. It&#8217;s <em>because</em> reality is often objectionable that I choose to orient myself this way. I engage eagerly because of what it does for me today, not because I think it will ensure any future outcome. Hope&#8212;and faith and love&#8212;don&#8217;t operate in the future. They&#8217;re how we survive the <em>now.</em><br><br>Trying to stomp out a protest by throwing reality on it is a bit like telling me it&#8217;s winter, and I may as well accept that as final. But I spent many years living in the upper Midwest. I know a thing or two about winter. 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class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/mar/25/rebecca-solnit-slow-revolution-far-right-cannot-tolerate?fbclid=IwY2xjawQ6RN9leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETF5b21mRmJaQ1VRYUdvRmpUc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHoQqEB0uOC2HZNMWsm_K712B_ZmJHnukAN8o-6TlDl2grvoafReZIHq0olse_aem_OPfSIStcOr8kh68Y5eA6Iw">A New World is Being Born</a></strong></em>, see above</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong><a href="https://cac.org/podcasts/a-bright-sadness-with-christian-wiman/">A Bright Sadness with Christian Wiman</a></strong></em>, <em>Everything Belongs </em>podcast, Center for Action and Contemplation, 5/8/2024</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a 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class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/119827.Faith?ref=nav_sb_ss_5_16">Faith: Trusting Your Own Deepest Experience</a></strong></em>, by Sharon Salzberg</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong><a href="https://cac.org/podcasts/a-bright-sadness-with-christian-wiman/">A Bright Sadness with Christian Wiman</a></strong></em>, see above</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[ Say More: At Last She Writes It]]></title><description><![CDATA[No. 58 | March 2026]]></description><link>https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-fcf</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-fcf</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 12:01:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gHkT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F956eff9d-1274-4c20-8c17-086c3a920939_3628x2425.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gHkT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F956eff9d-1274-4c20-8c17-086c3a920939_3628x2425.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gHkT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F956eff9d-1274-4c20-8c17-086c3a920939_3628x2425.jpeg 424w, 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Thank you to everyone who shared their ideas and experiences in this community. Every time one of us speaks or writes, another feels less alone. We've learned our stories can be very real lifelines, even when we don't see those who grab hold and hang on.</p></div><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZU0j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c3f9625-2b87-4226-8527-5c83b05831b1_1080x1350.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZU0j!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c3f9625-2b87-4226-8527-5c83b05831b1_1080x1350.jpeg 424w, 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The idea of &#8220;I sent my son to die for you&#8221; feels very different to me now. It doesn&#8217;t align with what I would expect from a loving, all-knowing, supreme being.</p><p>As an imperfect human, I would never require one of my children to die for anyone else. And if I had created all of this, I wouldn&#8217;t make the people I love inherently unworthy in the first place.</p><p>Feels so strange to me now.<br><em>&#8212;Jamee Andelin</em></p><p></p><p>I have shifted the way I view trials. I no longer believe that &#8220;everything happens for a reason&#8221; and God had some master plan that involves giving me my trials. I currently view the hard times as just part of the condition of being mortal. Sometimes good can come from them. They&#8217;re not pointless. But God didn&#8217;t handpick them to prove me.<br><em>&#8212;Jessica Mitchell</em></p><p></p><p>How about in the last 6 months? I think about God differently. Instead of a God who is a gatekeeper, demanding, and to be feared and obeyed or else, I know believe He is ALL loving and no matter my choices or how I get things wrong I will always be loved and welcomed to live with Him and my loved ones.<br><em>&#8212;Kathy C. </em></p><p></p><p>That putting my family over policy is extremely important. To Think that I was trying to keep a family eternal with rules that strained relationships is now laughable. People come first now, and if that send me to hell, so be it.<br><em>&#8212;Jillian Tueller </em></p><p></p><p>Personal revelation over obedience to church leadership. Wow what a difference! I am using the gift of agency instead of blindly following man&#8217;s interpretation of God&#8217;s laws and it feels so good.<br><em>&#8212;Dee Adams</em></p><p></p><p>A couple of my favorites are that I am God and God is in me. There was never, and could never be, a separation. And, closely related, that we and all of God&#8217;s creations are connected. When one is harmed, we are all harmed. Conversely, when one is healed, we are all healed.<br><em>&#8212;Marley Orton </em></p><p></p><p>My connection to God has no gatekeepers.<br><em>&#8212;Leslie Boyce </em></p><p></p><p>I don&#8217;t believe in God anymore. But I am happy to see women reclaiming their power and autonomy when it comes to their religion.<br><em>&#8212;Erin Pfleger </em></p><p></p><p>I have claimed my spiritual authority, I don&#8217;t need a man of anybody else&#8217;s authority to have a relationship with God. I also believe in a God who is not legalistic, but is love.<br><em>&#8212;Gaynor-Marie Glass</em></p><p></p><p>Many things, but mostly how we have been saved by grace, and that we will all return to our Father in Heaven. I think our temple visits place us on perhaps a higher plane of righteousness when making promises to the Lord and showing our respect and submissiveness in following the gospel and doing His will, but I don&#8217;t know in my heart that some things performed in the temple will need to be done when we pass by the sentinels in Heaven.<br><em>&#8212;Holly Christensen</em></p><p></p><p>Mainly, my vision of eternity has transformed. I believe God is more than a body of flesh and blood. God is more that 3 degrees of glory and God is more than gender. My beliefs are so radically different they seem unrecognizable to some, but I think they fit seamlessly into what my heart and head have always felt. We are still an eternal family, each of us still aspires to become like God once was. Love is forever the foundation and being like Jesus means focusing on that love and helping people to grow. What&#8217;s really changed is I have lost fear. I follow myself and my inner soul. I can&#8217;t believe the relief I feel and I think my &#8220;fruits&#8221; speak for themselves. Less judgment and service that is heartfelt, not forced. I&#8217;m happier and more self confident. Losing myself really has led to finding myself. I found this podcast at the beginning of my journey and I feel like I have walked this path with many of your listeners. Thank you for allowing what I believe to be the echoes of eternity brought forth into light.<br><em>&#8212;Pamela Kennedy</em> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbaT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4089a16d-86b5-4151-b020-0dfb8d307ee6_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbaT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4089a16d-86b5-4151-b020-0dfb8d307ee6_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbaT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4089a16d-86b5-4151-b020-0dfb8d307ee6_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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I&#8217;m embarrassed to admit this, but here goes: I was relieved when my husband chose me when I was 20 because it took the pressure off me having to make risky choices like trying to get into law school. This was the mid-80s, and my Mormon bubble didn&#8217;t have many examples of career women. Being someone&#8217;s wife was safe, known, preached from the pulpit. So I made the sacrifice, squelching any desire to develop myself and following the known quantity of temple marriage, stay-at-home motherhood, all with relief that &#8220;at least someone chose you!&#8221; I willingly, albeit blindly, chose not to develop a ME.<br>&#8212;<em>Becca T.</em></p><p></p><p>I have 2: paying tithing on gross, off the top, for 30 years when I should have been putting that money in retirement. And also starting having babies at 20 and not finishing my education because I hadn&#8217;t self-actualized. I had so many interests but didn&#8217;t know what I wanted to be when I grew up. So I tripped into SAHMhood.<br><em>&#8212;Brooke</em></p><p></p><p>Wearing garments for over 35 years. Being out of touch with my body. Disliking my body. Living with the fear that if I didn&#8217;t have them on, something bad would surely happen to me.<br><em>&#8212;Nancy</em></p><p></p><p>I sacrificed my dreams. LDS culture said &#8220;if you are a woman, your dream is motherhood, and that&#8217;s it.&#8221;</p><p>And I love being a mom, but I didn&#8217;t realize until much later that I hadn&#8217;t even allowed myself to have any other dreams.</p><p>Another one I regret less is that in high school I gave up a trip to Europe for Girls Camp. I had signed up to travel to Europe for two weeks with a group of high school musicians from all over the state. Since I had turned 12, Girls Camp had ALWAYS been the second week of July. I was scheduled to return from Europe at the end of the first week of July. We had already put down over $1000 towards the trip when the dates for Girls Camp that year were announced. It would be the first week of July. I was devastated. I loved camp and this was going to be my last year. After a few weeks of agonizing I decided to pull out of the Europe trip. We lost the $1000. Most expensive year of Camp ever. I&#8217;ve still never been to Europe.<br><em>&#8212;Zinah B.</em></p><p></p><p>Putting LITERALLY everyone else&#8217;s needs ahead of my own. Trying so hard to be that selfless woman that&#8217;s spouted about in church.</p><p>Thinking that the natural woman is an enemy to Godde. ( yes I changed it on purpose ).</p><p>Those beliefs led me down so many roads that led to intense personal decisions that impact me to this day.<br><em>&#8212;Genna</em></p><p></p><p>I can completely relate to the sacrifice of my true self, getting an education, having my own career, and the tithing. </p><p>Which brings me to the answer that came to my mind when I read the question. The biggest sacrifice I&#8217;ve made in my life was going to work (two jobs!) at age 45 when my youngest was six-years-old so we could avoid bankruptcy (mostly medical bills) because it was WRONG to go bankrupt if we could avoid it, and of course paying such a generous tithe guaranteed God would give me strength to work 50-60 hours a week (half of those just to pay the generous tithe). At a low-wage jobs because I had no education. But can I call it MY sacrifice if it was my children who suffered the most? Yes, it was rough on my brain and body for those eleven years and yes, it battered my marriage beyond repair, but my kids are the ones who paid the price of having an absent or cranky/exhausted mother. I can&#8217;t begin to express my anger and grief. How can we claim the family to be the most important unit when our teachings so often cause harm to families?<br><em>&#8212;Katy O&#8217;Barr Smith</em></p><p></p><p>Giving up on becoming a medical doctor because I thought having a family took priority. I did have the satisfaction of working in the medical field for 25 years after the youngest was in school, where I was able to make a difference for good. But I often wonder if there were greater opportunities to make a difference had I chosen differently. I don&#8217;t regret having 8 children. Not at all. They are wonderful people and each of them and theirs are making a difference for good in the world.<br><em>&#8212;Pat Catherall</em></p><p></p><p>I alienated my entire family because they were not members of the church and could not enter the temple for my wedding to my husband. </p><p>That was emotionally and spiritually devastating - but demanded [by a] religion that prizes obedience and worthiness above all else. </p><p>Putting the church&#8217;s demands over what my own conscience told me was wrong will be part of my deconstruction for the rest of my life. The harm from that one event has echoed through our relationships for years - and still does in the distance it caused in the lives of my children relative to their grandparents.<em><br>&#8212;Jessica Mertz </em></p><p></p><p>A mission, while the mission itself was a great experience, I felt very alone when I returned. As a person on a visa, I had to enroll in school full time a month after. I had no family close, very little money, ate little, it was winter and it was one of the hardest times in my life. I was very poor.<br><em>&#8212;Carolina Bell </em></p><p></p><p>One thing is serving a mission  to Idaho. It was probably at least twenty years or a little more before I admit, it&#8217;s anyone publicly that I have been disappointed in that mission call. Even now, I did learn to love the people of Idaho, and I had tears when I left, i had wanted to go to either a Spanish- speaking mission or a welfare mission. I feel it is something that I do or rather did to show love for Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father.</p><p>Another one is perhaps not really a sacrifice, by just being single and not having children. I&#8217;m at a point in life for reviewing my life, and knowing those dreams and hopes will never ever happen. It is a devastating kind of feeling. And there&#8217;s a part of me that wonders what my life would have been like, perhaps without the influence of the church on dating and what type of people to look for.. For instance, I&#8217;m sure church culture and church teachings probably influence some guys to not like me.</p><p>Another one is unfortunately due to my job. I have a job that basically requires homework in terms of paperwork and such. So I have sacrificed personally due to the kind of job that can impact one&#8217;s life balance. I feel like i&#8217;ve given a lot to my job. Trying to help patients yet in hindsight, even though I did what needed to be done, I wish I had been better with boundaries than life balance in some aspects of my work.<br><em>&#8212;Nita</em></p><p></p><p>My personal autonomy. It was 2003 when I got married at age 20. I knew plenty of women that had an education/career, but no one, not even my parents, ever actually talked to me about having hobbies or interests, going to college, or any sort of personal development (except Personal Progress, of course. My mom once told me Satan had his hands on me because I didn&#8217;t want to do it.) So I never had any plans for life except get married. 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I&#8217;m serious. I was taught that anything and everything a man said was literally smarter and wiser than any woman, especially myself. No more. Done with that. That is not true in the slightest.<br><em>&#8212;Mary Cox</em></p><p></p><p>Every damn thing! Swearing, what I wear, what anyone says I&#8217;m supposed to believe or do, counsel from ward, stake, and SLC leaders, the Word of Wisdom, the importance of meetings, shopping on Sunday, the temple, the afterlife, and, again, SWEARING!<br><em>&#8212;Carol Colvin</em></p><p></p><p>My children&#8217;s salvation looking like church activity and a &#8220;covenant path&#8221; lifestyle. Now that I don&#8217;t take that seriously, I&#8217;m so happy, relaxed and can and enjoy my adult kids 100%!</p><p>Boy, do I ever love them.<br><em>&#8212;Nancy</em></p><p></p><p>The afterlife. I now choose to focus on finding joy in this life.<br><em>&#8212;Jodi Gale </em></p><p></p><p>As I recover and heal from scrupulosity, I've taken a break from attending my rather prescriptive LDS Ward. In so doing, I felt like Alice in Wonderland for a while last year. I didn't know which way was up, what was real or false, or right or wrong. Instead of enjoying the adventurous ride, I stressed and cried almost every day for months as my spiritual foundation crumbled.<br><br>After a few months, finding a bit of stability and soft landing in a local, progressive Methodist community, I found myself crying and stressing less. I still relapsed at times with tsunamis of guilt or shame. During one of these relapses, I distinctly heard in a loving, almost joking tone, "You've got to stop taking Me so seriously!"<br><br>I've been enjoying this spiritual adventure so much more since that moment.<br><br>So, long story short: GOD. </p><p>I&#8217;ve learned to take God less seriously, in all the good, wholesome, healing, playful ways that God wants for our relationship.<br><em>&#8212;Andrea Neahusan</em></p><p></p><p>The opinion of anyone regarding my &#8220;worthiness&#8221;.<br><em>&#8212;Laura Balmaceda</em></p><p></p><p>What we are &#8220;supposed to&#8221; do and feel and be.<br><em>&#8212;Joy Wil </em></p><p></p><p>Everything that is not about secure attachment. If it doesn&#8217;t affect secure attachment relationships, it&#8217;s not serious.<br><em>&#8212;Paula White</em></p><p> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1OlL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1f80a5e-97b1-4958-abcd-41c7ea9f6267_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1OlL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1f80a5e-97b1-4958-abcd-41c7ea9f6267_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1OlL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1f80a5e-97b1-4958-abcd-41c7ea9f6267_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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I actually think that God CANT intervene in our lives.  They are God in that they love and care for us and the ultimate form of worship is to have a relationship with them.  That thought makes them seem more loving to me. Otherwise, it means that they pick and choose when and who and how to help...or not help.  And that just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.<br><em>&#8212;Tara Northcutt</em></p><p></p><p>That there were good reasons for all the things the church encourged or discouraged. Now I know that many of those reasons are just inherited cultural baggage.<br><em>&#8212;Laura Glasglow</em></p><p></p><p>I think patriarchy/hierarchy has been a hard but freeing belief to let go of. I still believe that some version of the gospel according to the LDS church is true. There are a lot of things where I&#8217;m like &#8220;yeah, maybe something kind of like that is true, but probably not in the way we&#8217;ve learned it.&#8221; But the whole idea of patriarchy, even though it&#8217;s so central to the way the church is run and supposedly continues into the eternities.... No. I can&#8217;t keep trying to believe that an oppressive system comes from God.<br><em>&#8212;Kristine Napper</em></p><p></p><p>I have let go of so many things but the biggest is that my religion (Jehovah&#8217;s Witness) is THE TRUTH.<br><em>&#8212;Melinda Kopilow</em></p><p></p><p>I&#8217;ve let go of believing the church has all the answers. And that what the church did was &#8220;God&#8217;s Will&#8221; and there must be a reason for the things that didn&#8217;t seem quite &#8220;right.&#8221;  Like denying priesthood to groups of people. Or polygamy.<br><em>&#8212;Maria Krieser</em></p><p></p><p>The belief the Church has all the answers. 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For a long time after deconstruction, I felt like my beliefs might be wrong or right, but it didn&#8217;t matter because I was learning, thinking, and growing! Now I realize I was close, but just barely missing the point = there IS NO RIGHT/WRONG in spiritual growth and learning!<br><em>&#8212;Sage</em></p><p></p><p>As an enneagram 8 - being wrong is one of my LEAST favorite things -- BUT - allowing the vulnerability of being wrong is also the gift of a healthy enneagram 8 (I&#8217;m not quite there yet, don&#8217;t fret) -- it&#8217;s where I learn about myself -- and that&#8217;s when the growth happens. I also think that the more I&#8217;m wrong about some of the little things, I trust myself to be RIGHT about the bigger things.<br><em>&#8212;Mary</em><br></p><p>I&#8217;m never comfortable with being wrong. But I&#8217;m also learning to lean into the discomfort for &#8220;productive discomfort&#8221;. </p><p>That said, there&#8217;s still plenty of times I don&#8217;t wanna lean in, but instead get unproductive discomfort and just be sassy or lean away/walk away from it to not be so uncomfortable.<br><em>&#8212;Nikki Nelson </em></p><p></p><p>I didn&#8217;t even know feeling comfort was a thing. Been feeling uncomfortable since birth. Adventures ahead.<br><em>&#8212;Evelyn Galbraith </em></p><p></p><p>I&#8217;m not comfortable with being wrong (mostly because I am a recovering perfectionist, considered the smart one in my family and was usually right) but I&#8217;m much more comfortable with not knowing all the answers. 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Luckily I had faith that once I went to the temple, god&#8217;s true plan for women would be revealed. And&#8230;we all know how that turned out.<br><em>&#8212;Jodi Gale</em><br><br></p><p>I was taught &#8220;No necking and petting,&#8221; and no one could/would answer what that meant! I&#8217;m still not sure.<br>I think most of what I learned was ambiguously taught, hence still so much is ambiguous to me.<br>And - all those handshakes to determine evil spirits and resurrected spirits, etc. How on earth was I supposed to remember all of this? Still confounds me; I see no relevance.<br><em>&#8212;Ronda Weaver</em><br></p><p><br>How will we get to heaven? Like will it be on a rocket ship to Kolob? Or will we dematerializing into energy and transported like on Star Trek. I spent way too much time thinking about this. Not one Sunday school teacher had a satisfactory answer.<br><em>&#8212;Ginger Hanson</em><br><br></p><p>If EVERYONE gets a body, when does the Holy Ghost get a body? I assume he would be the last spirit to be born, so there is an end. Also, after he gets his body, does that mean we no longer have &#8220;The Gift of the Holy Ghost&#8221; here on Earth? How does that work? I did ask the question once. The poor Bishop had no idea how to answer. Or that it was even a possible question to have. I got some version of &#8220;God will work it out in the end&#8221; The greatest non-answer answer the church has.<br><em>&#8212;Christina Beal</em><br><br></p><p>Are women only there to raise boys who will go and do cool things and girls to raise more boys and so on down the line ...<br><em>&#8212;Amanda Funai</em><br><br></p><p>I remember the day I learned about Polygamy. 14 years old in Seminary, Church History year. I asked my mom about it after school that day and she confirmed what I&#8217;d heard. I sobbed in my room in utter disbelief and despair. The first jar on my shelf. I tucked it away because it physically hurt to think about. Honestly, it still does.<br><em>&#8212;Farrah Nordquist</em><br><br></p><p>The 3 degrees of glory: where is the &#8220;cutoff&#8221; line?</p><p>If God know what decisions we will make, why bother with a thousand years of peace and judgement day, etc.</p><p>Why cant I play with non-morons? When I moved to Utah this was the first thing they TRIED to instill in me. Segregation of Mormons from non.<br><em>&#8212;Ricci Giles</em><br></p><p><br>Two big questions for me in my teens:<br>1. Why would God disallow black men from receiving the priesthood (6th grade when that started)<br>2. Why was Emma not worshipped for all she did!! Members didn&#8217;t even want to talk about her when I was a youth.<br><em>&#8212;Janene Goubert</em><br><br><br>My mother joined the LDS church when I was 5, my father was already a member. She was raised as a devout Catholic, parochial school too. My maternal grandparents were my favorite people! They were kind, loving, loved Christ, served in their church and so much nicer than my paternal, LDS, grandparents. I am old enough to remember when the &#8220;Great and Abominable Church&#8221; was directly identified as the Catholic Church. That didn&#8217;t sir well with me. I always wondered if they got that wrong, what else did they get wrong??<br><em>&#8212;Theresa Nowling</em><br><br></p><p>When I got a little older I read the scriptures a lot. I was focused on the idea of univocality in the scriptures and thought that if I could just study hard enough I would be able to find the true answers to all my questions.<br>&#8212;<em>Mara Haslam</em><br><br></p><p>I obviously didn&#8217;t get the repentance message prior to baptism and soon after got into a physical fight with a friend at school and thought I would go to hell. That worried me for a long time.<br><em>&#8212;Diana Kell</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/191156666?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qYa1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38257faa-f92c-4c10-9918-3832fdb36f2b_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><div class="pullquote"><p>Say More: At Last She Writes It is thrilled to continue a series called, &#8220;Faith in Focus: ADHD and the Mormon Mind,&#8221; by Brittney Walker.</p><p style="text-align: center;">This series explores how ADHD shapes the faith experience for women raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, from the early moralization of difference, to the exhaustion of trying to measure up, to the courage of rebuilding identity after leaving. Each essay stands alone but together they trace the arc from misunderstanding to self-understanding.</p><p style="text-align: center;">The goal isn&#8217;t to critique the church, but to name what so many women feel but can&#8217;t articulate: that our struggles aren&#8217;t spiritual defects. They are neurological differences met with impossible expectations.</p><p style="text-align: center;">The following essay, &#8220;Sacred Space, Loud Mind: Creating Room for Neurodivergence in the Church&#8221; is the second of the series. The next of the installments will be included each month.</p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9ti8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bacf32b-690a-4d09-a7ad-6b4875476d2c_5472x3648.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9ti8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bacf32b-690a-4d09-a7ad-6b4875476d2c_5472x3648.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9ti8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bacf32b-690a-4d09-a7ad-6b4875476d2c_5472x3648.jpeg 848w, 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It&#8217;s how we show respect and love for God in His house.</p><p>For many people, those instructions are simple. For some of us, they are an impossible puzzle.</p><p>We weren&#8217;t trying to be irreverent or disobedient. But our brains don&#8217;t experience stillness the same way.</p><p>ADHD doesn&#8217;t turn off when sacrament meeting begins. Thoughts still move quickly. Bodies still carry energy. Attention still searches for stimulation the way other people breathe.</p><p>And when a faith tradition teaches that spiritual sincerity looks like stillness, children who cannot sit quietly will start to assume something is wrong with them.</p><h4>The girl trying to listen</h4><p>Every few minutes I would snap back into focus.</p><p>Wait. What are they talking about?</p><p>I would sit up straighter and resolve to listen this time. Sometimes it worked for a few minutes. But then my mind would jump ahead to a scripture reference the speaker mentioned, or a question I wanted to ask, or the sudden realization that the woman in front of me had the exact same purse my mom owned in 1992.</p><p>Eventually I developed strategies.</p><p>I drew pictures in the margins of the sacrament program. I counted the ceiling lights. I peeled the foil off gum wrappers and pressed them onto the program. I split the ends of my hair and lined them up along the edge of the bench.</p><p>Sometimes my mom and I played the dot game on the program. We would draw a grid of dots and take turns connecting them, trying to capture squares and write our initials inside before the other person could block us.</p><p>Other weeks we played the &#8220;I love you&#8221; hand squeeze game during the talks.</p><p>It looked like fidgeting. But it was actually concentration. Keeping my hands busy was the only way to keep my mind in the room.</p><p>Eventually I learned an even better trick: taking notes. If my hand was moving, my brain stayed anchored.</p><h4>The effort no one could see</h4><p>From the outside, ADHD rarely looks dramatic. Especially in girls.</p><p>We are not usually the ones climbing the chapel furniture. We are the ones whispering.</p><p>A question about something the speaker said. A connection to a church magazine story. A thought that arrived so quickly it came out of our mouths before we had time to decide whether it should stay there.</p><p>Participation felt natural to me. Stillness did not.</p><h4>The early lessons</h4><p>Sometimes my parents had to take me out of the chapel. I remember sitting on a parent&#8217;s lap in the foyer, trying very hard to hold my body still long enough to prove I could go back inside.</p><p>As I got older, my job became escorting younger siblings out for water or bathroom breaks. Everyone knew that those trips often turned into a few minutes of running around the church building before returning reverently to the pew.</p><p>The sacrament itself was one of those moments. The moment the bread and water reached our row. The small sensory shift of participating.</p><p>Afterward, we unfolded the accordion-folded paper cups and formed them into flowers.</p><p>It wasn&#8217;t irreverence. It was stimulation in a room that offered very little.</p><h4>When difference becomes shame</h4><p>Many women with ADHD grow up believing their brain is a spiritual problem. Nobody says those words directly. But the traits that come with ADHD are easily and often interpreted through a moral lens.</p><p>For girls especially, the message often becomes: be quieter, calmer, smaller.</p><h4>What belonging could look like</h4><p>The hopeful part of this story is that inclusion doesn&#8217;t require sweeping changes to doctrine or worship. Often it simply requires widening our understanding of what spiritual engagement can look like.</p><p>A Primary teacher who welcomes questions instead of shutting them down. Even if the lesson veers around a bit.</p><p>A youth leader who understands that a girl whispering excitedly about a thought from the lesson is not being disrespectful. She is processing out loud. And when someone finally receives her that way, when a leader leans in instead of shushing her, something shifts. The story she tells herself changes. Not overnight, but it changes.</p><p>A calling where someone who struggles with administrative details receives structure and support instead of quiet frustration.</p><p>Small moments like these can change the story a child tells herself. Instead of I am bad at reverence, the story becomes my brain works differently. And that difference can belong.</p><h4>A wider kind of reverence</h4><p>Looking back now, I see that my ADHD didn&#8217;t separate me from spiritual life. If anything, it drew me toward it.</p><p>Curiosity made me ask questions.</p><p>Energy made me volunteer.</p><p>Intensity made me care deeply.</p><p>Some people experience God in stillness. Others encounter the sacred through curiosity, conversation, movement, and connection. Both can be forms of devotion.</p><p>The child whispering questions may be deeply engaged. The teenager who cannot sit still may be thinking harder than anyone in the room. The woman whose mind moves quickly may be offering gifts the community doesn&#8217;t yet know how to recognize.</p><p>Sacred space doesn&#8217;t always have to be silent. 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I spent many years trying to be reverent, organized, and less distracting, and now I write about executive function, faith, deconstruction, and rebuilding identity with a different kind of brain. My work explores neurodivergence, belonging, and the slow process of learning to trust yourself. You can find more of my writing at <a href="https://exmoadhdcoach.substack.com/">exmoadhdcoach.substack.com</a></p><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p><em>Isn&#8217;t this a great space? We hope you&#8217;ll share ALSSI with anyone you think might benefit from our community. More voices, please!</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share At Last She Said It&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share At Last She Said It</span></a></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.speakpipe.com/atlastshesaidit&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;say it&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.speakpipe.com/atlastshesaidit"><span>say it</span></a></p><p class="button-wrapper" 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isPermaLink="false">https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-8e7</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[At Last She Said It]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 13:01:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a4AF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89d5959e-c66e-4f72-a80a-95658c577b2a_4288x2848.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a4AF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89d5959e-c66e-4f72-a80a-95658c577b2a_4288x2848.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Gender, family dynamics, finances, personality differences, expectations were all complexities that I knew would have to be navigated. The complexity I didn&#8217;t anticipate was deciding how to raise kids. There are those famous movie moments when a couple of different faiths decides to get married or have kids and someone always asks them, &#8220;But how will you raise the children?&#8221; I naively assumed that was the major difference of opinion between adults raising children, and because we were both LDS, that wouldn&#8217;t be a problem for my husband and me. All of you who are reading this who are raising or have raised children are laughing hysterically. I am too. It&#8217;s quite the kick in the pants to glance back at our past selves, when we had so little experience or knowledge, and truly begin to understand how stupid we were. </p><p>My husband and I were raised very differently. Which might be hard to believe considering we were both raised by white, heterosexual, middleclass, LDS parents who were also born and raised in Utah. We both have so many privileges. So really, how different could our childhoods be? Perhaps you are laughing again. Because you know as well as I do now, that parenting can not be boiled down solely to race, sexuality, socioeconomic status or faith. Because the type of parents we become is shaped by the type of parents we come FROM. I&#8217;ve frequently said that there were things my parents did when I was growing up that I was NEVER going to do. And I stuck by that. The cruel irony I know now (I hear you laughing again) is that besides those very clear things I wanted to do differently from my parents, the rest of me continues to grow into them. We all become our parents. Don&#8217;t misunderstand me: I love my parents. I respect my parents, but I didn&#8217;t really want to morph into them. I&#8217;m exaggerating, of course, because I am still my own person with my unique personality and experiences. But much of who I have become and so much of how I raise my children is a result of how many parents raised me. Of course, the same is true with my husband. Trying to merge our personalities, our own backgrounds, our own opinions on how to raise our kids has been, for me, the most complicated part of our married life. I thought that BEFORE my faith shifted several years ago. Now, some days it seems nearly impossible to come to a unified decision about how to be a parent. </p><p>Without going into great detail of how we were both raised, I&#8217;ll just tell you that I am the &#8220;fun&#8221; parent and my husband is the &#8220;mean&#8221; parent. We each had different expectations placed on us as children and so, naturally, the expectations we have for our own kids are very different from each other. Parenting is an amalgamation of so many decisions; some important, but mostly little day to day decisions that eventually build up to make an entire picture of a life. Will I let the kids jump on the couch today? Do I have the energy to allow a giant crafting mess? Will I yell during my son&#8217;s temper tantrum or will I be the calm in the storm? Will I apologize for the mistake I just made? Will I make dinner or will we go out to eat? Will I make the kids get off screens and go play outside? Will I react with compassion when my daughter admits she lied? Will I make my son come hang up his backpack or hang it up for him? Will I make my kids eat the recommended serving of vegetables today? There is no way to list all the minute decisions we make during the day. But now, as my spiritual life is complicated, many of the decisions I make about my kids also become extremely complicated.</p><p>One of the biggest personal musings continues to be: how much do I share with my kids? How do I inform them, while allowing them to keep their hearts and minds open to the LDS church? How do I bring up my qualms, without overly influencing their decisions? How do I inform them, but allow them to experience things for themselves? I have a deep desire to help foster my kids&#8217; relationships with the divine alongside an even deeper desire to raise critical thinkers. In a church system that doesn&#8217;t want us to put question marks after the words of a prophet, it seems nearly impossible to raise children who are &#8220;all in&#8221; but know how to challenge the injustices of the system. My conscience will not allow me to sit back and watch their spiritual growth dampen and take on LDS rhetoric. If there is anything I can do to prevent my children from going through a mid-life faith crisis, I&#8217;m determined to do it. I will not have them fall apart as an adult because their spiritual life no longer works for them. It&#8217;s too damn painful. So I ache and think and debrief and deconstruct and reconstruct with them as often as I can. I will walk that tightrope to save them future spiritual pain. I guess I&#8217;m the second side of the same coin&#8212;LDS mothers everywhere feel a deep responsibility to usher their children down the covenant path so that they have the best chance at eternal life. On the flip side&#8212;I feel it is my responsibility to usher my children down their own path to have the best chance at happiness. I trust them to make the best decisions for themselves. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/189677757?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yngl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8d33892-0968-4c74-bce5-a3355139ef4e_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m helping my son clean out his room and I notice a, &#8220;For the Strength of Youth,&#8221; in the garbage. I pull it out.</p><p>&#8220;You&#8217;re getting rid of this?,&#8221; I ask. </p><p>&#8220;Yes.&#8221; </p><p>&#8220;Oh. I don&#8217;t really care, but can I ask why?&#8221; </p><p>&#8220;The section on chastity says that marriage is only between a man and a woman. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s true. I&#8217;m pissed about it so I&#8217;m throwing it away.&#8221;</p><p>How do I keep him from throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Do I really care if he does?</p><p>&#8220;Are there other teachings in here that you feel might apply to your life? Do you want to keep it for other reasons? Or you still just want to throw it away?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Throw it away.&#8221;</p><p>So I do.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/189677757?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWQQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22fb0516-6fad-4509-bdda-2f339ca1945f_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Several months ago, my son had an appointment to renew his temple recommend. My husband had made the appointment for him without consulting my son. In my husband&#8217;s world, you go get your temple recommend renewed regardless of what is happening in your life. To him, it is a commandment and if you truly love God, you obey commandments. Even if you don&#8217;t see the point, or don&#8217;t understand the need for the commandment. I completely understand his point of view because I used to think the same thing.</p><p>It&#8217;s a reality that we are inherently lazy creatures. That if given the option, we will all stay comfortable and content, never being pushed, never doing anything hard or uncomfortable. Especially as a kid. So much of what we do as parents is teaching our kids that hard things are not only necessary, but are good. That discomfort pushes you and boring, pointless things, actually have a purpose and can help mold you into the best version of yourself. Also, that those hard, boring things are a necessary part of life that will ALWAYS exist. Hard, boring things are never going away and you have to learn how to handle them.</p><p>Brushing your teeth, learning math, going to bed on time, showering, cleaning your room, being kind to rude people, tolerating your siblings, practicing physical skills, just to name a few. I know we as humans learn the value of doing hard, boring, things we initially dislike by being forced to do them. I can&#8217;t say I now love to pull weeds since I had to as a kid, but I know it&#8217;s something that has to be done to have a beautiful yard. </p><p>What I&#8217;m having a difficult time with is deciding how much of my children&#8217;s spiritual lives is a necessary evil they have to get through to see the value in later? Yes, church is boring and mundane and it takes a lot of work to get anything spiritual out of meetings. I no longer believe that my family&#8217;s salvation relies on us attending church every Sunday, but I do know that it&#8217;s where I first learned to have a relationship with God. But I now believe there are so many other ways and places to build a relationship with God. Church is not the only place to do it.</p><p>My son was getting ready for his appointment and asked which parent was taking him. I asked if he had a preference and he asked if I would take him. I said I would and was determined to do so without unloading all my thoughts about temple recommends and temple recommend interviews on my son. We got in the car and I just knew I was going to internally implode if I didn&#8217;t speak my mind about some things.</p><p>&#8220;Listen,&#8221; I said.</p><p>&#8220;You know one of the interview questions is about the law of chastity. Sometimes, bishops ask additional questions about masturbation and pornography use if they feel inclined. I don&#8217;t think that is any of the bishop&#8217;s business. I don&#8217;t think he has the right to ask you those questions, but I want you to be prepared if he does ask. Are you uncomfortable answering those questions in front of me? Because I am not sending you into that interview alone so if we need to have your dad go, instead of me, then dad can go with you.&#8221; </p><p>My son said he had no objection to me taking him. </p><p>I sat through the interview with my son and everything seemed fine. But then he surprised me as we pulled into the garage.</p><p>I asked, &#8220;Do you have any questions or concerns about the interview that you want to talk to me about?&#8221; </p><p>He yelled out, &#8220;It&#8217;s bullshit&#8221; and yes, he yelled. </p><p>I said, &#8220;What&#8217;s bullshit?&#8221; </p><p>&#8220;The fact that we believe that a prophet is so much better than anyone else and can hear God better than anyone else. He is just a man like anyone else. So why should he have all the answers? It&#8217;s bullshit.&#8221; </p><p>As I listened to him rant all I could think was, &#8220;I am so glad that I&#8217;ve deconstructed my faith because if I was still the person I used to be I would be FREAKING out at the things my son was saying. Instead, I can give him a safe place to question and think through things without thinking he is being led away by the devil.&#8221; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6732,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/189677757?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v9zm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49b3edcb-4802-49ef-b630-c94072d91240_1400x126.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m not afraid of making mistakes like I used to be. I always knew I could repent, but I still felt like things were going on my permanent divine record. That ultimately, they would be held against me. Now, mistakes truly are just a learning process. My GPS never says, &#8220;made a mistake.&#8221; It just says, &#8220;recalculating route.&#8221; That&#8217;s life. If I make a mistake, oh well. I&#8217;ll course correct as necessary. And so if my kids make what turn out to be monumental spiritual mistakes, I hold no fear about their eternal salvation. It takes a lot of pressure off.</p><p>At the beginning of this year my husband approached me and shared his feeling that we need to make fasting each fast Sunday more of a priority for the family, including the kids. I bristled and there was no hiding my immediate trepidation from my husband. Such a seemingly simple request brings up so many problematic feelings for me and a barrage of questions.</p><p>Has God really COMMANDED us to fast? <br>What&#8217;s a commandment anyway? <br>Are modern day revelations from authority figures commandments? Or guidelines? <br>Why do we have to fast if there are other ways to build a relationship with God? <br>Does God truly care about how we connect with divinity? Or is the relationship enough? <br>Why do we have to force the kids to have a connection with divinity? <br>Is it not enough to demonstrate our own relationship with divinity to the kids?<br>What if they don&#8217;t want a relationship with God right now? </p><p>There are some youth that love going to church and find such belonging, fulfillment and spiritual connection there. But I feel confident in saying that the majority of children, mine absolutely included, would never choose to go to church if given the option.</p><p>Because my ideas about God, obedience and grace have all changed so much during my journey, it&#8217;s changed my parenting style in many ways. The spiritual &#8220;requirements&#8221; I used to expect of my kids are now basically non-existent. Kids don&#8217;t want to say nightly family prayers? Cool with me. Church feels like a drag? I agree, let&#8217;s skip it. You don&#8217;t want to waste time going to the temple? All your friends are going and that might have social consequences, but you don&#8217;t have to if you don&#8217;t want to. You don&#8217;t want to read the scriptures? Okay, not everyone connects to God by reading their scriptures. Maybe you&#8217;ll find a different way. You don&#8217;t want to go to Young Men&#8217;s camp? I don&#8217;t care. <br>By having almost no spiritual expectations for my children, am I damaging them? Am I stunting their growth by never pushing them to do something difficult or boring or seemingly pointless or mundane?</p><p>We all start with a stage one faith (if you&#8217;ve never heard of stages of faith, <a href="https://churchandtheology.org/fowlers-stages-of-faith-explained-in-plain-language/">here</a> is a quick run down on one of the models).</p><p>If I never make them develop a stage one faith, can they even ever progress to later stages? Am I crippling their ability to differentiate because I&#8217;m not helping them build enough of a foundation?</p><p>How do I help my kids understand the potential for spiritual awakening when I no longer feel awakened there myself? How can I make them sit through two hours of church when I don&#8217;t want to go either? How can I make them fast when I hate fasting and don&#8217;t think God cares much? I think God is interested in a personal relationship with me, but how I best enter into that relationship is immaterial to God. God just wants to know me. And I believe I&#8217;m a better person when I daily come to know God. But if I never force my kids into situations with the potential to know God, how will they ever know if they themselves want to know God? How will they understand that the relationship can get them through hard times? How will they find a path that can lead them to existential love and generosity?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp" width="1400" height="126" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:126,&quot;width&quot;:1400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1302,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/webp&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/189677757?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!viXK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F512e1113-5f28-47b6-8c78-fc02a2d1994d_1400x126.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While expressing my heartaches of motherhood, some of my current struggles and loneliness, Susan sent me this message (yes, I&#8217;m so lucky that I get to have regular correspondence with Susan and Cynthia):</p><p>&#8220;Everyone can relate! I&#8217;ll admit, I&#8217;m laughing at the thought of you being able to ward off the dark night of the soul later for your kids by not indoctrinating them now. I don&#8217;t think the spiritual life works that way. One thing the Living School is teaching me is that this deconstruction stuff is really just doing the work of living well. Whether you&#8217;re religious or not, something is going to kick your ass good in this life, and you&#8217;ll be knocked to the ground by it. But the journey that sets you on is THE journey, so going through the hell is worthwhile. I didn&#8217;t say worth it, and absolutely no one would choose it, but it is the most <em>worthwhile</em> work I&#8217;ve done in my personal life, in my opinion. There&#8217;s my two-cents you didn&#8217;t ask for.&#8221;</p><p>My jaw dropped. Susan articulated in one sentence what my struggles really are all about: the need for control. It&#8217;s layered under love and good intentions, but it&#8217;s still there. The maternal need to protect my kids from pain and control how they move through this world. It&#8217;s parenting 101: you truly have no control over your children and the sooner you realize that, the happier you&#8217;ll be. I literally just said (in paragraph four to be exact) that I trust my kids to make the best decisions for themselves. I don&#8217;t intend for that to just be lip service, but rather a guiding force for how I parent. So in this moment I&#8217;m reminded that all I can do is offer love and support, but ultimately, just be along for the ride. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vLbw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3164cbd7-b8e5-4c8d-9405-46853c61b85f_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vLbw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3164cbd7-b8e5-4c8d-9405-46853c61b85f_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vLbw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3164cbd7-b8e5-4c8d-9405-46853c61b85f_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><h4>Blakelee Ellis</h4><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Eoxm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0c41da7-16f5-43d8-94b4-9639c8c55434_4431x6646.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Eoxm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0c41da7-16f5-43d8-94b4-9639c8c55434_4431x6646.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Eoxm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0c41da7-16f5-43d8-94b4-9639c8c55434_4431x6646.jpeg 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">photo of the author and her husband</figcaption></figure></div><h2>My Journey With Grief</h2><p><strong>by Emily Richards</strong></p><h4>It&#8217;s hard to know where to start. If I&#8217;m being honest, </h4><p>my faith has been unraveling for years, I just wasn&#8217;t paying attention. We were busy with raising three boys, moving abroad, and getting my husband to a point in his career when we could finally slow down a little and reap the benefits of sticking with an intense career path. That point finally came almost two years ago when he became a partner at one of the world&#8217;s largest accounting firms. We were relieved to finally reach this stage in our lives, to get back to traveling again, and to feel like we &#8220;made it.&#8221; But something was gnawing at me. I was unsettled and chalked it up to perimenopause anxiety. Then it happened. My husband was diagnosed with Stage IV colorectal cancer at the age of 41.</p><p>My world fell apart. It felt like everything had been taken from us without our consent and certainly without any reason. We had worked hard our whole lives, gone to church, paid tithing, served in our callings, gone to the temple and the list goes on. There was no history of cancer, he&#8217;s the youngest in his family and in great physical shape. The idea that we chose this trial in the pre-mortal world didn&#8217;t make any sense. I don&#8217;t think my 41-year-old husband chose before he came to this earth to get cancer and leave three teenage boys with one of them having significant disabilities. Can you even imagine such a thing? Or that God gave us this trial like he&#8217;s up in heaven hand picking who gets what and looked at us and said, &#8220;You know what, you&#8217;re strong people&#8212;I bet you can handle this one.&#8221;</p><p>What has happened in the last 16 months since his diagnosis has been a complete transformation. I shouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;complete&#8221; because I know I&#8217;ll continue to evolve and grow through this experience. But I&#8217;m not the same person I was before his diagnosis and I never will be. And when he dies and leaves this world, I know I&#8217;ll continue to change and have transformations. That&#8217;s a whole other side to this grief, that my person won&#8217;t get to see the woman I&#8217;m going to become.</p><p>I know I&#8217;m not the first woman to lose her husband in her 40&#8217;s, but can I just say it&#8217;s different for those of us who are on the younger side and I don&#8217;t think anyone would argue with that. It&#8217;s called &#8220;widow math,&#8221; which is essentially the longer I can keep him here (as if I have any control over this), the less time I have to do this life without him. Either way, I&#8217;m looking at the next 30-40 years without my person and it&#8217;s an unbearable thought. We met at BYU when we were 18, we grew up together and built a family. Our youngest son was born with Down syndrome 12 years ago, which was another transformative experience and if I&#8217;m being honest, I thought that was the BIG event of our lives. Little did we know.</p><p>This experience has clarified so many things for me. Spaces I had occupied before became impossible. It felt like everything and everyone was out to get me from seeing a middle-aged man playing pickleball (something my husband and I love to do together), watching older people (including our parents) go about their lives with little health issues, to seeing other families on Instagram traveling, or simply being asked by a grocery store clerk how my day was going.</p><p>Church was the ultimate test. I can do small talk for about five minutes and then it&#8217;s time to go. But seeing the throngs of people every Sunday chatting and laughing in between meetings and after reminds me that we are in a completely different world than everyone else. I wish I could be light again, I wish I didn&#8217;t know how quickly life can turn upside down. They all seem to be living in a world where that can happen (because we are the proof of that) but not to them. </p><div><hr></div><h4>One of the things I&#8217;ve felt so strongly in our home since my husband&#8217;s diagnosis is the love of the Divine. I know He sees me, heaven is crying with us, and is giving our family all the support they can right now.</h4><div><hr></div><p>The mantra I had to learn at the beginning when all I wanted to do was scream in the middle of sacrament meeting was &#8220;not everyone gets a front row seat to my grief.&#8221; Most of the time I have to completely disassociate at church, especially when topics like &#8220;hope&#8221; and &#8220;trials&#8221; and &#8220;miracles&#8221; come up. We talk a good game in the church, but until you&#8217;re faced with something completely out of your control, all of your former lines of thinking no longer apply. All bets are off as they like to say.</p><p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure how to wrap this up in a nice bow that&#8217;s easily acceptable to the masses. I&#8217;m very aware that my story can spark a lot of fear and anxiety in people, which makes me somewhat of an outcast. Luckily, I have some incredible women in my life who will see me through this&#8212;and are. Thank God for these women.</p><p>I&#8217;ve had to rethink everything these past 16 months. From logistics like where will I live and how will I provide for my son and myself after supporting my husband in a big career for the past 20 years, to what will I do about church after he&#8217;s gone. Church is hard now and I can only assume it will get harder. We also have a very specific situation with our youngest&#8212;he tolerates church and the only way we can get him through the first hour is by giving him goldfish and letting him watch Youtube. He&#8217;s non-speaking and has significant hearing loss so he gets nothing out of being there. He&#8217;s also overwhelmed by crowds and closed doors (aka the chapel). I can&#8217;t wrestle an 80 pound child who&#8217;s asking for his dad each Sunday just so I can be sitting in the pews. I don&#8217;t think anyone would argue with this, or certainly not with me.</p><p>Another scenario I&#8217;ll be facing is that I will no longer have a priesthood holder in my home when my husband dies and my two older boys leave home in the next three years. I was taught to marry a worthy priesthood holder (check) and yes, I still have the letter to my future husband I wrote as a Beehive. How will this work?</p><p>All of this brings me to THE question, what does it mean to &#8220;live the Gospel&#8221; when our traditional ways of doing so are no longer possible or cause pain? I have to believe God understands my situation. One of the things I&#8217;ve felt so strongly in our home since my husband&#8217;s diagnosis is the love of the Divine. I know He sees me, heaven is crying with us, and is giving our family all the support they can right now. I can feel I&#8217;m being prepared for a life without my partner. So many miracles have happened and will continue to happen, just not the one we want the most. And no, He&#8217;s not taking attendance and He certainly isn&#8217;t going to withhold His love and protection from my home because a man no longer lives in it. Someday, I&#8217;ll be a widow raising a son with serious disabilities, and who do we think God is more likely to give His power to, me or a man?</p><p>Someday, my time will finally come and let me just say that I have no fear of death now. It will be a happy day when it&#8217;s my turn. I have nothing to fear in death. I&#8217;ll finally be back with my person. And when that day comes I imagine my Heavenly parents will pull me into their arms (after my husband of course, he gets first dibs) and tell me how sorry they are that this happened.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>Note from the author: I wrote this a couple of months ago when I thought we still had at least a year left with my husband. Just five weeks ago, his cancer took a turn and we are now on hospice and in his final days. Everything I wrote then is still true, but there have definitely been some new struggles and feelings that have come up now that we are at the end. When my brain can put sentences together someday, I&#8217;ll write again.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BdjB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e4fae8-889c-4daf-8087-69bf6519fd86_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BdjB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e4fae8-889c-4daf-8087-69bf6519fd86_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BdjB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e4fae8-889c-4daf-8087-69bf6519fd86_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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I was just doing what I thought was &#8220;right&#8221; even though it was not right for me then, and sadly isn&#8217;t now. Although some of these rituals have changed recently, it was already too late for me. It felt unsettling covenanting to obey my husband, veiling my face, changing all those robes multiple times, and forgetting the answers at the veil. I was always mildly scolded by the gray-haired, well-meaning sisters who wanted me to be fully ready to enter God&#8217;s presence. At the beginning of the ceremony, when asked if I wanted to withdraw rather than take on sacred covenants, I didn&#8217;t know if I did! I didn&#8217;t know what they were until <em>after the ceremony</em>. I was not witness couple or prayer circle material. It seemed I was the last person getting robed or disrobed, and I would panic that I wasn&#8217;t more adept at tying bows under pressure.</p><p>My ADHD was undiagnosed at the time and sitting through a two hour, repetitive ceremony was excruciating. I wondered why I felt little joy. One was supposed to feel joy at the temple according to every Relief Society lesson given since 1842. No one talked about <em>not</em> feeling joy. Was it something I was doing or not doing that prevented me from feeling the spirit that I was promised? The celestial room was a lovely, peaceful place and definitely a conduit to God&#8217;s love. But it was not transformative in the way I expected or hoped. Where was Jesus? I wanted to learn about Jesus&#8212;not about Peter, James, and John, Adam and Eve, or Satan. Why were they front and center?</p><p>But I really tried and went occasionally as much as my mental health would allow. I found some satisfaction in participating in sealings and initiatories. I enjoyed seeing the names and ages of the sisters I was proxy for. I wondered if they knew what was happening from the other side, and did they want to have temple ordinances performed for them? I attended when two of my children went on missions. I attended when my son got married. I answered the temple recommend questions half-heartedly in order to be there for these special occasions. I am prone to feeling intense guilt about everything, and so feeling unworthy (whether I was or not) to go to the temple weighed heavily on me. I knew I was disappointing my husband. I was certain Jesus was disappointed in me. I now realize that he wasn&#8217;t then and isn&#8217;t now, and this knowledge has lessened some of the pain. It&#8217;s sad to think how many years I wasted thinking that Jesus&#8217; love for me was dependent on my relationship with the temple.</p><p>When or if my daughters decide to get sealed in the temple, I have been wondering about my course of action. Will I choose to sit in the waiting room?  What will more &#8220;righteous&#8221; family members think when the mother of the bride is waiting with others who chose not to sit through a worthiness interview? Who chose not to answer invasive questions that don&#8217;t measure our desire to follow Christ and the good things we&#8217;re trying to do?</p><div><hr></div><h4>These questions require us to look higher and broader. They require us to think about all of God&#8217;s children, the goodness to be found in all religions, and the potential to find Christ through service. Above all, they are Christ-based.</h4><div><hr></div><p>The temple recommend questions do not reflect a person&#8217;s heart. They don&#8217;t reflect my heart. Since they lack depth and insight into my commitment to follow Jesus, I decided to rewrite them in a way that just might make me want to attend the temple again. If they were written this way, I could reflect on whether I was a true disciple of Christ, and not just adept at answering questions about sex, underwear, coffee, and money.</p><p>I know that we will never see these revised questions in the handbook, but I hope that Jesus will be in charge of temple &#8220;worthiness&#8221; someday instead of church leaders. These questions do not ask about exact obedience to LDS prophets or their infallibility. They don&#8217;t make LDS prophets the only ones who can speak for God. They don&#8217;t ask us to avow that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has more truth than any other religion that provides comfort and joy to God&#8217;s children. These questions require us to look higher and broader. They require us to think about all of God&#8217;s children, the goodness to be found in all religions, and the potential to find Christ through service. Above all, they are Christ-based.</p><p>Here is how I would rewrite the questions:</p><blockquote><p>Do you believe in God the Eternal Father, Heavenly Mother, in their Son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost?</p><p>Do you believe that Christ is our brother, Savior, and friend, and that through His grace and atonement we can be forgiven of wrongdoing?</p><p>Do you believe that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints contains truth, can strengthen family relationships, and provide support and community for members and non-members?</p><p>Do you obey Jesus&#8217; commandment to love God and your neighbor?</p><p>Do you strive to provide service to those in need in your family, church, employment, and neighborhood?</p><p>Are you willing to financially assist people, worthy organizations, and the church when possible?</p><p>Do you accept all people regardless of sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, social status, and religion as children of God? Do you believe that they can be worthy to participate in all church activities and attend the temple?</p><p>Do you believe that men and women are created equally?</p><p>Are you faithful to your spouse?</p><p>Are you a faithful partner in raising your children?</p><p>Do you strive to take care of your body by eating healthy foods, exercise, getting adequate sleep, and avoiding harmful substances?</p><p>Do you seek to build a relationship with God and Jesus Christ through church attendance and creating a loving and supportive community with other members and friends?</p><p>Do you seek answers to your questions through scripture and other enlightening books or music or nature?</p></blockquote><p>I can only hope. Until then, there is still a lot of work required to be a disciple of Christ despite these revised questions. Maybe even more.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZXZj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76405bbc-b9b8-45a6-854d-ae41df259eac_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZXZj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76405bbc-b9b8-45a6-854d-ae41df259eac_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZXZj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76405bbc-b9b8-45a6-854d-ae41df259eac_1070x193.jpeg 848w, 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I was grateful my dear friend let me borrow a bike since I did not have one of my own. A short while into our bike ride, my upper body began feeling quite sore&#8212;I was not an experienced biker and assumed I was paying the price in muscle fatigue. The soreness continued to intensify even after our ride, but I thought nothing of it. I was elated when later that evening the soreness and aches suddenly disappeared. We had met up with more friends to reunite and reconnect after months apart.</p><p>We decided to get in cars to gather at a different home, moving in the herd-like fashion from high school. I walked over to my friend&#8217;s car and when I went to open the door, my hand simply would not do it. I chuckled at my malfunction and attempted again, but was still unable to open the door&#8212;I could not even grip the handle between my fingers. We all had a good laugh&#8212;I think my friends imagined I was clowning around to entertain. Eventually a friend opened the door, and I got in. I went home shortly after to quiet since my family had gone to sleep&#8212;they did not hear me awkwardly trying to change into pajamas to go to bed with hands that were incapable of gripping anything. I thought that sleep would fix everything&#8212;I would wake up with normal capacity and an entertaining story to tell in the morning.</p><p>I was wrong. I woke with numbness in both of my hands, some of my arms, and a new band of numbness around my stomach. I told my parents, rested most of the day (it was Sunday after all), and Monday morning we called my physician.</p><p>That summer I was diagnosed at age 19 with Multiple Sclerosis. I had MRIs, CAT scans, cortizone injections, and began betainterfuron treatments. I gradually gained most of the feeling back in my hands and stomach, but the strength in my hands&#8212;particularly my thumbs&#8212;is to this day ever-so-slightly less than it was before this incident.</p><p>The nervous system is remarkable! Its complexities and intricacies continue to marvel me as I learn more about its functions in bodies. The nervous system is intended to operate as a bi-directional feedback loop&#8212;motor signals go out from the brain to different areas of the body and sensory input sends data back to the brain. The sensory input provides information for the brain about touch, pressure, pain, temperature, and positioning of the body through space. This allows the brain to process the information and modify future messaging. Sometimes this feedback loop is interrupted in both directions, as it was when my hands, arms, and stomach went numb. Alternatively, <em>sensory</em> <em>neuropathy</em> occurs when the brain can send motor commands to areas of the body but that area of the body cannot communicate back sensory information&#8212;ultimately injuries can occur, balance and coordination often suffer, and generally the individual will begin to over-compensate in a certain area (often visually) because they cannot rely on sensory input from their body. My father, who has neuropathy in his feet, broke his toe and was unaware for <em>months</em>&#8212;ultimately he needed reconstructive surgery on three toes to repair the damage from walking on his injured toe for more than a year.  </p><div><hr></div><h4>If our desire is to be one&#8212;to value each member&#8212;then we must improve both our systems and willingness to hear feedback from each part of the body. </h4><div><hr></div><p>The hierarchical structure of the church is one of a disrupted feedback loop. One direction of information flows normally&#8212;from the &#8220;brain&#8221; or leadership of the church to the rest of the body&#8212;but the return signal is lost. In addition to this top-down-only flow of information, at a more local level we hear all too often of a similar failure of communication where the true feelings of individuals are reprimanded, shut down, or withheld for fear of the many consequences of pointing out flaws in a system we declare to be inspired, but that we also infer is without a need of adjustment. This disconnection is regularly evident as individuals who defend the church talk past those who point out the pressure, discomfort, and pain created by the church in lives of other members.</p><p>When we dismiss the experiences of individuals, we are telling another area (person) of the body of Christ, &#8220;I have no need of your sensory data.&#8221; We are rejecting Paul&#8217;s injunction that, &#8220;If one member suffers, all suffer together with it.&#8221; (1 Cor. 12:26) Many individuals who have left the church have done so because their cries of discomfort, pain, and position are ultimately unheard, unwelcome, or shut down, and the data they are trying to share does not make it back up into the brain to synthesize information from the external world into the commands sent to the body.</p><p>If our desire is to be one&#8212;to value each member&#8212;then we must improve both our systems and willingness to hear feedback from each part of the body. If the <em>general </em>leaders send unread letters and emails back to <em>local </em>leaders, then we are preventing the sensory feedback of the members from reaching the brain. The pain and damage happening to the members will continue right in front of us when it could be addressed and prevented in the future if we would facilitate a bi-directional feedback loop between leaders and members. When we are selective about which members of the body of Christ we listen to, we create a veritable echo chamber of validation. Unless we prioritize listening to the diversity of experiences throughout the body of Christ, we lose awareness of and connection to data that should be so valuable to us in our efforts to follow Christ&#8217;s injunction to &#8220;be one&#8221; so that we can be his.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg" width="1070" height="193" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:193,&quot;width&quot;:1070,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/188343026?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWpd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16c19b3-0afe-417b-8d01-369ae24d1ea5_1070x193.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><div class="pullquote"><p>Say More: At Last She Writes It is thrilled to introduce a new series called, &#8220;Faith in Focus: ADHD and the Mormon Mind,&#8221; by Brittney Walker. </p><p>This series explores how ADHD shapes the faith experience for women raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, from the early moralization of difference, to the exhaustion of trying to measure up, to the courage of rebuilding identity after leaving. Each essay stands alone but together they trace the arc from misunderstanding to self-understanding.</p><p>The goal isn&#8217;t to critique the church, but to name what so many women feel but can&#8217;t articulate: that our struggles aren&#8217;t spiritual defects. They are neurological differences met with impossible expectations.</p><p>The following essay, &#8220;The Girl Who Talked Too Much,&#8221; is the first of the series. The next of the installments will be included each month. </p></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LcUd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F162d738e-57e6-4bf9-8f85-3c7218280eae_6598x4399.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LcUd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F162d738e-57e6-4bf9-8f85-3c7218280eae_6598x4399.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LcUd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F162d738e-57e6-4bf9-8f85-3c7218280eae_6598x4399.jpeg 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>The Girl Who Talked Too Much</h2><p><strong>by Brittney Walker </strong></p><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;97e1d3ed-6966-4dd0-b6da-e9bbf5355a6f&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:556.3298,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><h4>I don&#8217;t remember squirming in Primary so much.</h4><p>But I remember talking.<br>And being sent to the hall. Again and again.</p><p>It wasn&#8217;t rebellion. I just always had something to say: an idea, a joke, a connection, a question. It popped into my brain and was out of my mouth before I could stop it. I was the first to memorize every scripture, the first to raise my hand, the first to volunteer. I wanted so badly to be good. But somehow, <em>good</em> was always quieter than me.</p><p>I was told I talked too much.<br>That I interrupted.<br>That I should learn to &#8220;reverence my voice.&#8221;</p><p>No one said I might have a brain that moves faster than my mouth can keep up.<br>No one said my excitement wasn&#8217;t sin.</p><h3>Reverence and other impossible virtues</h3><p>In the church, being &#8220;reverent&#8221; isn&#8217;t just about noise. It&#8217;s an outward manifestation of your relationship to the divine. The &#8220;good girls&#8221; are soft-spoken and graceful. They fold their arms and cross their legs, sing in the right key, and sit through sacrament meeting like angels carved from stone.</p><p>I t<em>ried</em> to be one of them.<br>I memorized all the Articles of Faith before anyone else.<br>I bore my testimony as soon as I could toddle to the pulpit (and to anyone who would listen).<br>I smiled so hard my cheeks hurt.</p><p>But reverence never came naturally. My voice was too loud, my laugh too big, my feelings too close to the surface. I wasn&#8217;t defiant. I was enthusiastic. I wanted to participate in everything, and I didn&#8217;t understand why that made grown-ups sigh.</p><p>What I learned early was that being &#8220;too much&#8221; was just as bad as being &#8220;not enough.&#8221;</p><h3>The unseen kind of wrong</h3><p>ADHD in girls doesn&#8217;t usually look like the Primary boy balancing a chair on his head. It looks like a girl who blurts answers, over-explains, talks fast, laughs loud, volunteers for everything. And still gets labeled &#8220;distracting.&#8221;</p><p>It&#8217;s the invisible kind of wrong. Earnest, high-energy, rule-following, and somehow still failing.</p><p>We weren&#8217;t the kids skipping Seminary; we were the ones teaching the lesson when the teacher didn&#8217;t show. But our report cards came back with &#8220;bright girl, talks too much.&#8221; Church leaders praised our testimonies and then reminded us to tone it down.</p><p>You learn, after a while, that the best way to please people is to shrink yourself.</p><h3>Obedience as personality</h3><p>ADHD girls are masters at overcompensating.<br>I became the kind of obedient that could win awards for it.</p><p>Color-coded scripture tabs, perfect Visiting Teaching records, Relief Society lessons that would bring a tear to your eye. My effort level was Olympic. My nervous system was fried.</p><p>The church rewards that kind of over-functioning. Especially in women. We call it diligence. We call it faith. But it&#8217;s often the coping mechanism of someone trying to prove she isn&#8217;t defective.</p><p>When you have ADHD, chaos is always humming beneath the surface. So you build structure out of guilt and glitter. You keep saying yes to every calling, every committee, every meal train, hoping the doing will finally quiet the noise inside.</p><p>It never does.</p><h3>The gospel of repentance</h3><p>If obedience became my personality, repentance became my reflex.</p><p>The harder I tried to live up to every expectation, the more proof I found that I couldn&#8217;t. I lacked consistency. The kind of daily steadiness that was praised from every pulpit. Scripture study, morning and night prayer, timely preparation for callings or meetings. I meant to do them all, but my follow-through never matched my intentions.</p><p>And yet, I never forgot to repent.</p><p>Every skipped morning prayer, every missed journal entry, every talk prepared last-minute went on the invisible list of things to be sorry for. I carried a prayer in my heart &#8230; of apology. I was always confessing, always resolving, always promising that <em>next time</em> I&#8217;d be better.</p><p>What I didn&#8217;t know then was that inconsistency wasn&#8217;t a moral flaw. It was my ADHD showing up exactly as it does for everyone else, just in the language of faith. But back then, inconsistency felt like sin.</p><p>So while other girls were building testimonies, I was building a case against myself.</p><h3>The burnout prophecy</h3><p>By adulthood, I was exactly who the system had trained me to be: responsible, spiritual, dependable&#8212;and exhausted.</p><p>Every late bill, every missed appointment, every Sunday morning meltdown felt like moral failure. I&#8217;d think, <em>If I just tried harder, prayed harder, planned better&#8230;</em></p><p>People would say, &#8220;You&#8217;re amazing! I don&#8217;t know how you do it all.&#8221;<br>And I&#8217;d smile and think, <em>Me neither. Because I can&#8217;t.</em></p><p>Burnout, for me, wasn&#8217;t a slow fade. It was the moment my mind said, <em>No more pretending.</em> The checklists that once gave me safety now felt like cages. The structure that once kept me safe now made me suffocate.</p><p>That&#8217;s the problem with trying to earn your peace. You can&#8217;t keep up forever.</p><h3>When the name finally fits</h3><p>Getting diagnosed with ADHD as an adult was like reading my patriarchal blessing and realizing it had been misfiled under someone else&#8217;s name all along.</p><p>Suddenly, everything made sense.<br>The noise in my head, the bursts of energy, the forgotten forms, the half-finished projects, the guilt. The GUILT. The big emotions. All of it.</p><p>It wasn&#8217;t a lack of faith or discipline.<br>It was a different kind of brain, living inside a system that didn&#8217;t know what to do with difference.</p><p>That realization didn&#8217;t make me bitter; it made me merciful.<br>Merciful toward that little girl in the hall.<br>Merciful toward the woman who kept saying yes.<br>Merciful toward everyone who tried to make sense of me with the language they had.</p><h3>What I wish she knew</h3><p>If I could whisper through time to that chatty Primary kid, I&#8217;d tell her:</p><p>You weren&#8217;t bad.<br>You weren&#8217;t unruly.<br>You were curious, alive, and trying to connect in a place that prized quiet over authenticity.</p><p>You memorized every scripture because your brain loves stimulation.<br>You volunteered because you craved connection.<br>You talked because silence felt like being erased.</p><p>None of that was wrong.</p><p>Your voice was never the problem. It was proof you were here, thinking, feeling, learning, trying.</p><p>The church told you to be still and know God.<br>But maybe God was never in the stillness for you.<br>Maybe God was in the conversation.</p><p>The girl who talked too much was never broken.<br>She was just early to the truth.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vpq_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd6a841d-7754-4c7b-bc77-7aefec81a51e_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vpq_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd6a841d-7754-4c7b-bc77-7aefec81a51e_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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My husband Todd is in the final weeks of his life after 20 months of battling cancer. I am also a mom to three boys ages 17, 15, and 12. Our youngest son, Ben, has Down syndrome so I also consider myself an advocate for not only my son, but all those with disabilities. I spent 15 years in the PR field and plan to take those skills I developed to build a new life for Ben and myself by starting a day center for adults with disabilities near the ocean (Ben&#8217;s favorite place).</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9tO8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1fee1b-8721-4a9f-865a-e284c64385b6_2136x2670.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9tO8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1fee1b-8721-4a9f-865a-e284c64385b6_2136x2670.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9tO8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1fee1b-8721-4a9f-865a-e284c64385b6_2136x2670.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9tO8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1fee1b-8721-4a9f-865a-e284c64385b6_2136x2670.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9tO8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1fee1b-8721-4a9f-865a-e284c64385b6_2136x2670.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9tO8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1fee1b-8721-4a9f-865a-e284c64385b6_2136x2670.jpeg" width="262" height="327.5" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Nicole Slater </h4><p>I am a creator, a wife, and a mother of three who lives in New Mexico. I have a Bachelor&#8217;s Degree in Communications and freelance occasionally in Graphic Design and Photography. My free time is almost always spent reading.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg" width="305" height="305" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:960,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:305,&quot;bytes&quot;:297171,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/188343026?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VOOc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3620f7-9709-459b-9812-772b6b9734a3_960x960.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Ellen Hawkins </h4><p>I am a junior high reading and writing teacher and spend much of my day repeating instructions and answering questions I've already answered. Sometimes teaching happens. I am amused by 12-13 year old students, and I love watching all the real life that is being navigated in the halls and classrooms of the public schools. There is no better place to learn about what it means to be human in a complicated, stressful world. Reading is my true joy along with fires, cozy clothes, lunch with friends, Sunday night dinners, movies, walks, flowers, and Pilates. I am trying to phase into girl dinners, writing more, and meaningful conversations with people I love. I have four grown children, and two granddaughters who live way too far away. I try to visit them as much as possible. My husband and I live in Utah.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg" width="251" height="376.20608899297423" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:640,&quot;width&quot;:427,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:251,&quot;bytes&quot;:48184,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/i/188343026?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E9-I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ea35aac-dd37-44b6-8bf3-8b22cbbf5952_427x640.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Sarah Maxwell Neipp</h4><p>I grew up in Salt Lake City and have lived in Virginia, California, and Washington D.C. (where I served an LDS mission). I received two degrees in vocal performance and currently teach and perform locally. I love my husband and two children along with our dog and two cats. I&#8217;m an Enneagram type Nine.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0ycv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6724d2f-3bee-4419-beeb-b02ecfb28525_2316x3088.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0ycv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6724d2f-3bee-4419-beeb-b02ecfb28525_2316x3088.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0ycv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6724d2f-3bee-4419-beeb-b02ecfb28525_2316x3088.jpeg 848w, 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I spent many years trying to be reverent, organized, and less distracting, and now I write about executive function, faith, deconstruction, and rebuilding identity with a different kind of brain. My work explores neurodivergence, belonging, and the slow process of learning to trust yourself. You can find more of my writing at <a href="https://exmoadhdcoach.substack.com/">exmoadhdcoach.substack.com</a></p><div><hr></div><div><hr></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share At Last She Said It&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share At Last She Said It</span></a></p><p><em>Your subscription makes the podcast possible! 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url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ok9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22343241-42a8-4e23-aba1-ee1874138d97_1300x900.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><h2><strong>We Have A Mean Streak In Mormonism</strong></h2><h5><strong><br>by Cynthia Winward</strong></h5><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ok9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22343241-42a8-4e23-aba1-ee1874138d97_1300x900.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><div class="native-audio-embed" data-component-name="AudioPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;label&quot;:null,&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;c24e636e-97ed-47c3-849c-469eafcb1978&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:478.66776,&quot;downloadable&quot;:false,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><h4>I once overheard a family member&#8212; whom I love dearly&#8212;</h4><p>several decades ago say that girls who have premarital sex deserve to get pregnant as a punishment for their sins.</p><p>I witnessed this convo between a male family member who was in a heated discussion with other female family members. They were trying to convince him his attitude was cruel. Why would anyone ever want a difficult life for a young girl? I had at least five cousins who became teenage mothers so this was a big topic in my big Mormon family growing up. The adults probably had no idea I had listened to this convo. (I was one of those kids who preferred to sit and listen to the grown-ups rather than go play with my cousins.)</p><p>Just revisiting this experience in my thoughts makes me want to write a whole &#8216;nother essay about the strictness of the law of chastity. Does it do more harm than good? Maybe I&#8217;ll write that another day. (Also, stay tuned for a podcast episode in March with therapist C.A. Larson about purity culture/law of chastity&#8230;.can we ever talk about <em><strong>that</strong></em> enough?) But today I just want to focus on the mean streak that I see in Mormonism&#8212;in my childhood and sadly still now.</p><p>Perhaps a mean culture exists because in high-demand religions we often sacrifice so much (sometimes happily, sometimes reluctantly) that we need there to be Big Consequences for these sacrifices? We want the blessings of sacrifice, but maybe more so, we also want to make sure there is a punishment for those who break the rules? We religious types have a lot of feelings about the idea of anybody &#8216;getting away&#8217; with &#8216;sin&#8217;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JF3o!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbdd7e95-15b7-4ee2-a817-ce7f8e71382c_1300x900.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JF3o!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbdd7e95-15b7-4ee2-a817-ce7f8e71382c_1300x900.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JF3o!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbdd7e95-15b7-4ee2-a817-ce7f8e71382c_1300x900.jpeg 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I know all this because&#8212;as embarrassed as I am to admit it&#8212;I used to be one of those people that loved to conjure up the mental scoreboard when the consequences of &#8216;sin&#8217; became evident to me. I learned it best from my religious community&#8212;to mentally &#8216;finger wag&#8217; at sinners. That&#8217;s not an excuse for my mean thoughts, just an explanation that I did learn this behavior somewhere, from someone. In particular, I learned it from my own leaders.</p><p>Teachings such as these&#8212;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;If a person hasn&#8217;t suffered, he hasn&#8217;t repented. . . . He has got to go through a change in his system whereby he suffers and then forgiveness is a possibility.&#8221; <br>&#8211;<a href="https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/dallin-h-oaks/sin-suffering/">Dallin Oaks quoting Spencer Kimball</a> </p><p>&#8220;You cannot commit a little sin without being subject to the consequences.&#8221; <br>&#8211;<a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-of-presidents-of-the-church-russell-m-nelson/05-repentance?lang=eng">Russell M. Nelson</a> <em> </em></p><p>&#8220;This clearly sets forth the ultimate banquet of consequences and the cumulative impact of choices not in accordance with the Father&#8217;s plan of happiness.&#8221; <br>- <a href="https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/quentin-l-cook/banquet-consequences-cumulative-result-choices/">Quentin L. Cook</a> </p><p>&#8220;Therefore I command you to repent&#8230; otherwise you shall suffer&#8230; how sore you know not, how exquisite you know not.&#8221;<em> <br></em>&#8211;Doctrine &amp; Covenants 19:15&#8211;18</p></blockquote><p>The language of these teachings is vivid, threatening, and physical&#8212;suffering is framed as deserved. Not only do we preach about the judgment of others&#8217; sins, but we also have teachings that turn that mean voice of condemnation inward&#8212;<em> </em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;For our words will condemn us, yea, all our works will condemn us; we shall not be found spotless; and our thoughts will also condemn us;&#8221; <br>(Alma 12:14)</p></blockquote><p>This internal judgment then becomes our own prosecutor. And prosecutors of self naturally become prosecutors of others. Or maybe we prosecute others first and then turn that judgment inward? Whichever comes first, in my observation, we have developed a culture of meanness. We flog others and we flog ourselves. If there is any breaking of a law, or a commandment, we demand&#8212;and revel in&#8212;swift justice. For example, how often during the current warrant-less immigration raids occurring in the US have I heard Mormons say, &#8216;well they broke the law.&#8217; Why is that what gets typed out on social media thousands of times a day? Like here&#8212;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg" width="659" height="238.9644859813084" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:194,&quot;width&quot;:535,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:659,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QjD0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03bc4f52-4e6c-4781-af63-0ebfbd3bb4cf_535x194.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As followers of Jesus (who was once a refugee displaced in a foreign land!) why isn&#8217;t mercy <em>always</em> our default? Why doesn&#8217;t kindness and respect, which are the actual core teachings of Jesus, come before (or instead of) Article of Faith 12 in that social media comment? Why are we okay with people in windowless detention centers, being separated from their families? Why do we favor laws&#8212;even unjust laws&#8212;over kindness, compassion, and mercy? Why hasn&#8217;t my church joined the many other churches decrying the current inhumane treatment of immigrants? The most <a href="https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-reaffirms-immigration-principles-love-law-family-unity">current statement</a> from January 2025 says, first and foremost, that &#8220;The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints obeys the law.&#8221;</p><p>I remember an experience I had as a teen. A couple of my friends had submitted their mission papers&#8212;only there was a problem. They didn&#8217;t have legal status in the US. Our stake president wrestled with this dilemma and ultimately he decided (with leaders at the top, I assume) that mercy would guide his decision. My friends were allowed to serve missions stateside where their legal status wouldn&#8217;t be an issue. Mercy over law. Bless him. I am sure stories like this are still happening today, quietly at the local level, but why haven&#8217;t leaders at the top made another statement clarifying where they stand on current events today?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-245?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://atlastshesaidit.org/p/say-more-at-last-she-writes-it-245?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>A world of hurt and harm has happened since the last immigration statement, yet Church leaders remain silent. Jesus, however, was not silent. In the Bible we repeatedly see Him choosing mercy over law&#8212;</p><p>What about the woman caught in adultery? (Or as I like to call it, the men caught in hypocrisy.)  She is brought to Jesus, but he refuses to condemn her even though the punishment for adultery (well, for<em> adulterous women</em>) was death. He doesn&#8217;t deny the law, but he refuses to weaponize it. <strong>Jesus chose dignity and compassion over judgment.</strong> (John 8)</p><p>What about healing on the sabbath? Jesus says,<em> &#8220;Is it lawful to do good or to do harm on the Sabbath, to save life or to kill?&#8221; </em>(Mark 3:4) <strong>Jesus breaks a law to relieve suffering.</strong> In this example He directly challenges any theology that treats rule-keeping as morally superior to human care.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg" width="1300" height="900" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:900,&quot;width&quot;:1300,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dy9E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a9ebee-36e3-4b3d-9b65-c4e7bbd7d4b5_1300x900.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What about the parable of the good Samaritan? In this parable it&#8217;s the people most obedient to religious law that fail morally, while the heretical Samaritan succeeds. &#8220;<em>Which of these three, do you think, was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of the robbers?&#8221; He said, &#8220;The one who showed him mercy.&#8221;</em>  (Luke 10:37-38) <strong>To Jesus it is mercy, not correctness, that defines righteousness.</strong></p><p>Those are just three examples! I could list many more examples where Jesus chose mercy over the law, over and over. As Richard Rohr writes in <em>Dancing Standing Still,</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Jesus is always on the side of the crucified ones. He changes sides in the twinkling of an eye to go wherever the pain is. He is not loyal to one religion, to this or that group, or to the worthy; <strong>Jesus is always loyal to suffering.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>May we check any meanness in our hearts. <br>May we bury our lust for justice and consequences. <br>May we choose the better way of mercy, as Jesus perfectly modeled for each of us.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K7h4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac1625eb-aef9-472f-b917-a2ac42ecbbe3_1070x193.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K7h4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac1625eb-aef9-472f-b917-a2ac42ecbbe3_1070x193.jpeg 424w, 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