Every church goer has probably heard more lessons about the wise and foolish virgins than they can count. Why do Latter-day Saints love to talk about this parable so much? And why do we seem to be so attached to one interpretation of it? In Episode 140, Susan and Cynthia try to shake up the same old conversation about this story—and the women in it—by asking a few new questions, and imagining new answers.
Notes & Quotes:
Listening to Snakes and Bridesmaids: A Sermon on How Self-Reliance is Overrated, by Nadia Bolz-Weber, The Corners, 2/26/2023
Inspired: Slaying Giants, Walking on Water, and Loving the Bible Again: One Woman’s Journey Back to Loving the Bible, by Rachel Held Evans
Converted Unto the Lord, by David A. Bednar, October 2012
Robert Capon — Parable of the Wise and Foolish Bridesmaids, by Charles Jordan, Ancient Anglican
“…the black writing on the page is what’s written, and the white space around it is where we dance with what’s written.” — Rob Bell
[Midrash is] “A Jewish mode of interpretation that not only engages the words of the text, behind the text, and beyond the text, but also focuses on each letter, and the words left unsaid by each line.”
— Vanessa Lovelace
“Midrash, which initially struck me as something of a cross between biblical commentary and fan fiction, introduced me to a whole new posture toward Scripture, a sort of delighted reverence for the text unencumbered by the expectation that it must behave itself to be true…….Midrash also gives me permission to play a little with the stories. It also gives me permission to indulge my questions and confront my doubts…..While Christians tend to turn to Scripture to end a conversation, Jews turn to Scripture to start a conversation.” — Rachel Held Evans, Inspired: Slaying Giants, Walking on Water, and Loving the Bible Again (pp. 23,24)
“As the wise virgins emphasized properly, each of us must ‘buy for ourselves.’ These inspired women were not describing a business transaction; rather, they were emphasizing our individual responsibility to keep our lamp of testimony burning and to obtain an ample supply of the oil of conversion. This precious oil is acquired one drop at a time—‘line upon line [and] precept upon precept.’” — Elder David A. Bednar
“This was not selfishness or unkindness. The kind of oil that is needed to illuminate the way and light up the darkness is not shareable. How can one share obedience to the principle of tithing; a mind at peace from righteous living; an accumulation of knowledge? How can one share faith or testimony? How can one share attitudes or chastity… Each must obtain that kind of oil for himself.” — Spencer W. Kimball, Faith Precedes the Miracle, 1972
“The oil in the parable represents our faith and testimony, our purity and dedication, our good works, and our keeping of covenants—all of the ways in which we have ‘taken the Holy Spirit for [our] guide.’
The wise virgins could not share their oil with the foolish virgins because ‘the oil of spiritual preparedness cannot be shared.'” — Marvin J. Ashton, A Time of Urgency, Ensign, May 1974
“Marolis seemed fearful of there being more than one way to understand the Torah. Was he afraid he would lose control over our thinking? Why did he need to control the way we thought? Did he believe that God wrote stories with only one kind of meaning? It seemed to me that a story that had only one kind of meaning was not very interesting or worth remembering for too long.” — Chaim Potok, Davita’s Harp, p. 332
“The foolish bridesmaids weren’t foolish because they didn’t bring back-up oil, they were foolish because instead of trusting that the light of Christ was enough to shine the way, they wasted all that time and energy and money trying to get their own because someone shamed them into thinking they could never approach the Lord with their lack. Rather than just trusting that the light of those around them and the light of the groom was enough they assumed they had to provide their own– and then they were so consumed by the shame of not being enough, they busied themselves trying to fix it – so much so that they missed the wedding banquet.” — Nadia Bolz-Weber
“They, perhaps not unlike us, mistakenly assumed that all God is interested in is our strength, our preparedness, and goodness. (the standard LDS interpretation) When what God really asks of us is to know our need for him.” — Nadia Bolz-Weber
“NOTHING is like God’s favorite raw material to work with.” — Nadia Bolz-Weber
“Could God say to someone truly humbled, broken, and desperate for reconciliation, “Sorry, too late”? Many have refused to accept the scenario in which somebody is pounding on the door, apologizing, repenting, and asking God to be let in, only to hear God say through the keyhole: ‘Door’s locked. Sorry. If you had been here earlier, I could have done something. But now, it’s too late.’” — Rob Bell, Love Wins
“So, my friends, some texts we must wrestle with. They will not hand over the goods so easily. And sometimes, the way to find the good news in a text is to use the rest of scripture as like, a secret decoder ring.” — Nadia Bolz-Weber
“Or maybe, the condemnation of the bridesmaids is not because they ran out of oil, but that they ran out on the bridegroom in search of oil. Could their condemnation be simply their lack of faith in the grace of the bridegroom himself who would have let them in without any oil?” — Charles Jordan
“Of course the bridegroom said “I don’t know you” because they hadn’t come to him in their need and lack and want. But Jesus knows us not by our independence from him, Jesus knows us by our need of him, for which we should never be ashamed.” — Nadia Bolz-Weber
“They were foolish because they listened when voices other than God’s tried to tell them who they were. They listened to those whispering voices telling them that they can only approach the groom if they have already met all their own needs first. And here’s what really got to me ….. it was reading this verse from Revelation 22 In the city of God, they will not need the light of a lamp, for the Lord God will give them light…..
Think about it. If at midnight the guy who was on watch said hey, wake up, the groom is coming! The groom must have had a lamp or torch of some kind, right? How else could the groom have been seen from that far away at midnight? The foolish bridesmaids weren’t foolish because they didn’t bring back-up oil, they were foolish because instead of trusting that the light of Christ was enough to shine the way, they wasted all that time and energy and money trying to get their own because someone shamed them into thinking they could never approach the Lord with their lack. Rather than just trusting that the light of those around them and the light of the groom was enough they assumed they had to provide their own– and then they were so consumed by the shame of not being enough, they busied themselves trying to fix it – so much so that they missed the wedding banquet.” — Nadia Bolz-Weber
Katrina Katrinka
This was a great episode.
I’ve wondered about this parable most of my life.
The thing that I was stuck on was with the interpretation we’ve been given that we can’t lean on anyone else’s testimony. I took that to mean *anyone*. Not even sticking strictly to everything the church taught would be enough.
I wondered why the church would teach something like that.
Then, in 2015, the PoX (Proclamation of Exclusion) happened, and I had a realization.
We can’t rely on anyone else’s testimony, not even that of the most righteous in the church, because sometimes, they’re *wrong*.
Sometimes, the church stops following Christ because of something as harmful and short-sighted as culture wars.
The parable made me feel so much better when I decided to follow Christ and love my LGBTQ brothers and sisters regardless of what the church said. My testimony grew because I saw that when we follow Christ in our lives, no matter what anyone else says is right or wrong, we are the wise virgins.
The foolish virgins follow blindly whatever the harm and pain they cause that would witness to them they’re in the wrong.
Michelle Tendler
I teach Gospel Doctrine in my ward. Plan to share the quote and encourage dancing with scripture in my lessons. Loved this episode!
Kellie Openshaw
I just found this podcast this week – the first episode I listened to was awesome, so I threw on my earbuds this weekend and decided to listen to your take on the 10 virgins.
Perfect timing. Last week my father in law (bless his heart) had a “family zoom call” for all of us to listen to his thoughts. What did he lead with? Parable of the 10 virgins.
This parable has never sat well with me and I could never really identify why – until this podcast. Thank you for shedding new ideas and new thoughts that expanded and validated my trust in the Lord. And c’mon. Anytime you pull Dolly Parton in, I am here for it. Thank you for the intro to Nadia Bolz-Weber.
I am a firm believer that there is room for everyone and Jesus won’t shut anyone out. The elite mentality of the Church (and of the 5 “prepared” virgins) has been a big factor in me stepping a foot out to determine for myself what serves and what doesn’t. It’s been wonderful.
I look forward to listening to many more of your podcasts. Thank you!
Rob
I have found a few principles that are relevant in understanding Christ’s parables.
1. In his parables, Christ is almost always one of the characters.
2. In like manner, Christ almost always has reference to the pharisees in his parables.
With this in mind, in this parable the bridegroom represents Christ. The “virgins” or young maidens, represent everyone in the world, both the wicked and the righteous. The parable is in reference to the marriage of Christ with his people, the church, specifically those who will come and be at the marriage feast spoken of in Revelations and the D&C. The wise virgins represent the righteous while the foolish virgins represent the wicked. The light and oil for the light is the light of Christ which is only found in the righteous. The wicked run out of oil, run out of light, because of wickedness and not following that light within, even snuffing it out until finally the light leaves. The foolish virgins represent the pharisees and those who typify a pharisee. These types can’t be saved because they utterly refuse the light when it is right before them.
The part where they slumber and all fall asleep represents physical death as all the pharisees and followers of Christ all die, went to the ground and await resurrection. The “door” being opened and shut represent the first resurrection and entrance into the millennium with Christ.